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    Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    This also has been sitting around for years and I thought I saw a post that lead me to believe this could be a fuse from the Civil War?
    Its also cast but non fearous maybe copper as it has a slight green hue? any help would be great!
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    Re: Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    I don't know what it is, but I am pretty sure it is not a fuse.

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    Re: Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    couldn't be - but the 'top' looks like a u-joint bearing cap---but it ain't--right folks

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    Re: Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    Unfortunately, it is definitely not an artillery fuze from the civil war ...and not a fuze from any era of history.

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    Re: Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    Thanks I keep looking.

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    Re: Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    Looks like a half of a gate valve "gate".

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    Re: Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    Looks like the bottom of a valve we used to use to check the freon level in a sealed system. Kinda like this one.
    Piece at bottom right of parts.
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    Re: Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    eng block freeze plug ?

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    Re: Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    What you have is the coin hole cover for a vintage cast iron bank. The wings on the side fit in the opening wings on the bank, and you twist it to lock it in place. There are no threads on hole in the bottom of the bank, it stays in place via the 'wings.' Neat find Breezie
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    Re: Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breezie
    What you have is the coin hole cover for a vintage cast iron bank. The wings on the side fit in the opening wings on the bank, and you twist it to lock it in place. There are no threads on hole in the bottom of the bank, it stays in place via the 'wings.' Neat find Breezie
    Its hard to find a matching pic for a toy money box coin hole cover because there are many types. One bottom hole cover is patented and marked: PATd Feb 2 1875.

    I can see how this could be possible and maybe an ID.
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    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

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    Re: Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    Ckeck out the following patent drawing. This is not the exact one, but it's close.
    Look at the side that's circled in red.
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    Re: Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    Quote Originally Posted by vhs07
    Ckeck out the following patent drawing. This is not the exact one, but it's close.
    Look at the side that's circled in red.
    It sure looked like a gate valve on one side when you first mentioned it vhs07 but now I am convinced. I agree. The IDs here just keep getting better.

    BTW for those that dont know, its the inside of a water shut-off valve and its brass.
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    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

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    Re: Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    Being in the scrap metals business, I see these quite often.

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    Re: Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    Of course, it would need a way to attach it to the stem. Does it have anything like that?

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    Re: Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave44
    Of course, it would need a way to attach it to the stem. Does it have anything like that?
    That was what I first thought but if you study the patent diagram posted by vhs07 you will see that it simply slips inside and is held in place by the dimples. Its a tremendous ID and no doubt about it IMO. Green check.
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

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    Re: Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    Quote Originally Posted by vhs07
    Being in the scrap metals business, I see these quite often.
    I replace/repair gate valves quite often as an ex building maintenance man but I was originally thinking like Dave. I thought it needed a threaded attachment hole. The patent you posted explains it very clearly. Apparenty its a replaceable gate and this type of valve should be used more often today.

    I bet you find some cool stuff.
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

  17. #17
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    Re: Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    Are these valves as thick as the one BC has? At least I know I can go buy a coin closure for my cast iron bank! LOL Hopefully they come in various diameters. Breezie
    Every time I watch Gone With The Wind, I think we're gonna win this time!

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    Re: Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breezie
    Are these valves as thick as the one BC has? At least I now I can go buy a coin closure for my cast iron bank! LOL Hopefully they come in various diameters. Breezie
    Yes they are thick and they are solid brass. The picture I posted is the threaded stem type. You would have to dissassemble a valve.

    The type vhs07 posted in the 1901 patent maybe can be bought seperately but I think its an old style that isnt used anymore. He said he sees them at his scrap metal business. You may be able to file them down to fit there should be several sizes.
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

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    Re: Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    Well I have looked at all the post. The gate valve is looking good. I have a problem with the way it would attach to the threads,or even be held in place. There aren't any groves or recesses. The metal is a correct match and it surely looks the part.I am going to electrocute it and see if there any further details. BCNJ

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    Re: Fuse, part, casting, cover?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buried Crap NJ
    Well I have looked at all the post. The gate valve is looking good. I have a problem with the way it would attach to the threads,or even be held in place. There aren't any groves or recesses. The metal is a correct match and it surely looks the part.I am going to electrocute it and see if there any further details. BCNJ
    I tried to explain to Dave that it does not attach with threads, it simply floats inside, the dimples holding it in place.
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

 

 
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