Another shell casing ID

[baspinall]

Found this a couple weeks ago. The second set of shells I also found in the same spot.

Brian

[nsdq]

first one may be a 38 long ? sec looks to be 1903 springfield ?

[baspinall]

Head stamp on the clip shells are F A 20. Wouldn't it be Frankford Arsenal?

[ffuries]

FA 20 is indeed Frankford Arsenal 1920, I thought based on what I could see that it read AO once I blew the pic up I now see it reads FA 20.

Mike
USAF Retired

[TheCannonballGuy]

Your first casing appears to be a .50-caliber. I recently made an error here at TN by "eyeball guess-timating" a casing's diameter based only on a photo. So to avoid ever repeating that error, I'll say plainly here that you MUST provide an extra-precise measurement of that casing's diameter (a teeny bit above the base-rim) for certainty about its ID.

That being said, in your photo it appears to be a "Martin's Primer" .50-70 Government rifle's cartridge-casing. Note the unusually wide primer "disc" -- which despite its appearance isn't actually an external primer. See the photos and info here, which says this type of .50-70 casing was made between 1869 and 1871: http://www.oldammo.com/november06.htm

[baspinall]

Thanks for the info. Never saw that primer before.

[BosnMate]

The second photo is a stripper clip of 30-06 blanks, intended for the model 1906 Springfield rifle, used by American troops in WWI, and even saw some use in WWII.

[baspinall]

Yep blanks. Thanks

[nsdq]

The second photo is a stripper clip of 30-06 blanks, intended for the model 1906 Springfield rifle, used by American troops in WWI, and even saw some use in WWII.

well got sec pics right, no clue on the first but it is all good