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  1. #16
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    I'm stumped too.

    It has an inordinately large trigger guard. If anything I'd have to go with some type of boot pistol as pictured above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SODABOTTLEBOB View Post
    I don't know pistols, but I do like looking for pictues of them. Below are two pistols that look similar to the one in question. (These are just examples. There are jillions of varieties).

    1. Civil War era Boot Pistol. (Like Allen mentioned).

    2. Revolutionary period Pistol. (I like the way the handle is angled).

    3. SMRH's rusted relic.

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    Thanks for the input Bob. I am dying to figure this one out good or bad. I would love to see some of these boot pistols stripped down to the frame... I figured the ones posted had the barreled action sitting in the wood furniture... Mine seems to have a spot on either side for wooden grips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stand Watie View Post
    I'm stumped too.

    It has an inordinately large trigger guard. If anything I'd have to go with some type of boot pistol as pictured above.
    That was the first thing I took notice too when I dug it. Based upon where I dug it, it certainly should be period. A camp that's no where near much of anything else.... no other newer relics bit perhaps some farm equipage. (Though we all know strange things turn up in areas they shouldn't ) Whether it's a toy or not I certainly like it a lot.

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    Civil War era Boot Pistol ~ Rusted relic without wood. (Seems to be a typical style).

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    It looks as if the barrel is missing. With no cylinder it must be single shot or muzzleloading. I agree its just the trigger housing and frame but the grips look kinda small in your hand.

    It would be cool to see it after electrolysis.

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    I don't think it is from a pistol, toy or otherwise. I think it is from rifle. But the question is, which one? My guess is, is that it is from something similar to an Ive's Patent of Feb 14, 1888 known as Johnnie"s Little Gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SODABOTTLEBOB View Post
    Civil War era Boot Pistol ~ Rusted relic without wood. (Seems to be a typical style).

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    Thanks Bob.
    Does seem to be typical... The construction has me puzzled honestly. The way the trigger sear comes up into the frame I can't picture the action... Please excuse spelling errors fellas. Typing all these from my phone tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcypresshunter View Post
    It looks as if the barrel is missing. With no cylinder it must be single shot or muzzleloading. I agree its just the trigger housing and frame but the grips look kinda small in your hand.

    It would be cool to see it after electrolysis.
    I would like to see it cleaned up too. Never done any electrolysis yet... This will be my first.
    Last edited by SoMdRelicHunter; Apr 13, 2012 at 10:46 PM.

  9. #24

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    Quote Originally Posted by creskol View Post
    I don't think it is from a pistol, toy or otherwise. I think it is from rifle. But the question is, which one? My guess is, is that it is from something similar to an Ive's Patent of Feb 14, 1888 known as Johnnie"s Little Gun.
    I will be Googling that after typing this Rob. Thank you very much! I hope to get this damn thing figured out. Didn't see ya at DIV. We must've been hunting on different sides of the farm. I stayed over on the hill behind headquarters where they found several South Carolina buttons. How'd you fare?

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    Does look similar doesn't it??

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    Not sure it's the exact same one, but my bet is that it's from something similar. I will check my books in the morning after I have my coffee.
    "Wherever I go .. That's where I'll be!"

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    no they just showed the picture it was a program on modern marvels about the history of toys and who invited each popular brand and type. I understand what you mean because I have an item on here too and I'm kinda new to this so when I see stuff I try to remember because everything I see just amazes me that it sits within our reach and yet not many people want to hold a piece of history. If I see it again or online I will send it to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creskol View Post
    I don't think it is from a pistol, toy or otherwise. I think it is from rifle. But the question is, which one? My guess is, is that it is from something similar to an Ive's Patent of Feb 14, 1888 known as Johnnie"s Little Gun.
    Here's a picture of an Ives Little Johnnie toy cap gun (rifle). It says it measures 11" inches long.

    Link: Ives "Johnnie's Little Gun" 1888 Cast Iron Cap Rifle Working Auction

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    How big is that assembly anyhow? Just curious??
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    Yup. Looks very similar. Its approximately 6 inches from bow to stern.

 

 
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