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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcypresshunter View Post
    In both the firearms pictured, the missing barrel sits on wood like modern rifles. We are looking for something unique where the barrel sits in an iron bedding.
    Not necessarily .. look at JP's "Old Revolver" post: Old Revolver
    The trigger assembly in this photo has the same "cradle" profile as SODABOTTLEBOB's does.
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    What's This? Same ~ Similar ~ or Different? Note that its all metal and has a nubbed handle.

    LINK: Very very very old pistol - TheFirearmsForum.Com

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    Quote Originally Posted by creskol View Post
    Not necessarily .. look at JP's "Old Revolver" post: Old Revolver
    The trigger assembly in this photo has the same "cradle" profile as SODABOTTLEBOB's does.
    How do I post a double quote? Sorry Creskol. Your picture is showing the "cradle" for the frame and cylinder. Bob has pictured muzleloaders, not revolvers, and in both examples the barrels are set in wood like I said. . As far as I know, my statement is correct.


    But you have opened the possibility that we may be looking at a revolver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creskol View Post
    Not necessarily .. look at JP's "Old Revolver" post: Old Revolver
    The trigger assembly in this photo has the same "cradle" profile as SODABOTTLEBOB's does.
    Quote Originally Posted by SODABOTTLEBOB View Post
    What's This? Same ~ Similar ~ or Different? Note that its all metal and has a nubbed handle.

    LINK: Very very very old pistol - TheFirearmsForum.Com

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    IMO different. The barrel is missing completely from the second pic. And Creskol opened the possibility that the frame and cylinder may also be missing as well.

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    SoMdRelicHunter ~

    What is your opinion (best guess) regarding the nubbed end ... do you think its the actual end nub of the handle, or just a clumpy, rusted area and that there was originally more below it? The reason I ask is because it looks rounded off like the finishing touch to the handle. And if you believe the nub is the end cap, then that will definitely change my search wording ... meaning it will lead me to believe its a small hand gun of some type and not a large revolver or rifle.

    Thanks.

    Bob

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    I think its an actual heavy iron nub.

    Thinking about Creskols revolver posting, I took the cylinder off my old Colt revolver to take a look. I think the possibility exists that this could be an old revolver but severely rusted down (at red line) and the rest fused together. Note that mine is Brass. It would have had to be broken and/or sat upside down for years in water, such as in a bucket, to do this and leave the trigger intact..

    So until we can find an iron bedding flintlock, it looks like its either a toy or heavily rusted down revolver.
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    It would sure help to electrifry it to see if its one solid frame or several large parts fused together.

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    That knobbed end does look like an old flintlock pistol. I could imagine its use as a head knocker after you fire your one shot..

    What about a tip-up pistol like the one by Stevens but with a trigger guard or an old one shot tip up parlor pistol? That large trigger guard reminds me of an air gun but Im out of ideas..

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    Big Cy and Creskols ~

    If I understand you correctly, it sounds like you're saying that SoMdRelicHunter's rusted artifact might be similar to part number 22 shown below where the red arrow is pointing? (But is missing the barrel and everything else). If this is in fact what you're saying, then I am inclined to agree with you. Providing, that is, that SMRH doesn't come along and say he believes the nub is a finished part of the "outer" handle.

    SBB

    This parts diagram is of a Colt revolver, but I'm not sure how old.


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    According to the parts diagram and link below, that particular type of trigger guard is from a ...

    Colt Model 1877 Double Action Revolver

    Link: Working Colt’s Model 1877 Double-Action Revolvers

    SBB

    Go to link for enlarged image and text. See part No.44 ~ Screw No.51 went into Hole No.48 to hold the wood grips in place.



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    In response to Creskols post, I am only saying that a severely rusted revolver could be considered as a slim possibility. But I have part #44 in my hand from my Colt and it doesnt have a knob and the wood grips go all the way to the very bottom.
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    Could it be the item in question is a rusted ...

    You're going to be surprised when you see this link: Trigger Guard Assembly?

    ... trigger guard?


    I'm not saying identical to this one, but of a similar type?

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    It doesnt have a knob on the bottom. Im trying to post.

    My pics are not posting...
    Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; Apr 14, 2012 at 07:35 PM.

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    Until it has had a bath, it will be hard to really get an ID.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SODABOTTLEBOB View Post
    Could it be the item in question is a rusted ...

    You're going to be surprised when you see this link: Trigger Guard Assembly?

    ... trigger guard?


    I'm not saying identical to this one, but of a similar type?

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    Yea thats my gun. Looking at the pics side by side I think you could be right on a trigger assembly from a revolver but the trigger mechanism is frozen inside. We need to find one with a knob.

    It looks now more than a slim possibility.

 

 
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