Apr 14, 2012, 07:39 PM
Originally Posted by Bigcypresshunter
Big Cy ~
I hear ya, but notice that what you're seeing on the "outside" is part No.41 which is the Backstrap. The bottom of the trigger guard is "inside." Maybe (just maybe) the nub is the squarish part at the bottom of the trigger guard, but rusted into a rounded shape.
Apr 14, 2012 07:39 PM
Apr 14, 2012, 07:41 PM
Yes I now see it as being a possibility. Like Creskol said, need to clean off the crud and it may look like a better match.
Originally Posted by SODABOTTLEBOB
The only thing missing is the channel... if the knob is a rusted clump.. Yea could be part of the backstrap in a rusted clump along with the trigger.
Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; Apr 14, 2012 at 07:46 PM.
Apr 14, 2012, 07:48 PM
The more I look, the more I think you guys are correct its a trigger guard. But my part number 44 is flat with no channel so maybe not Colt but another brand.
Apr 14, 2012, 07:49 PM
I agree with creskol, too. It needs a good cleaning/electro bath. So its up to SoMdRelicHunter now. The proof of the pudding will be to see what's under all of that rust.
Originally Posted by creskol
Last edited by SODABOTTLEBOB; Apr 14, 2012 at 07:52 PM.
Apr 14, 2012, 07:54 PM
Wait. I have one more pic. I think you guys nailed it.
The channel is actually a slot and the protrusion part of the trigger sticking up.
I used the same hand to hold it to compare but how the heck do you take a picture left handed SoMoRelichunter ? lol.
Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; Apr 14, 2012 at 08:03 PM.
Apr 14, 2012, 08:06 PM
Thats what I was trying to do but until I learn, the new format is slow as molasses for me to operate with all the unnecessary choices. It takes me at least 5x as long to post attachments and 50x as long to scroll back through the pages.
Apr 14, 2012, 08:07 PM
Apr 14, 2012, 08:29 PM
Just foolin' around here. But I got a real kick outta Big Cy's wait! So here's one more to help put things into perspective. The guy claims its a circa 1901 Colt Single Action Revolver. But, as Big Cy pointed out, if the item in question is in fact a trigger guard, then it could easily be from any one of a jillion different guns.
Anyhoo, check this one out. It has huge pictures in the link and lets us see the majority of the pieces to the puzzle and how they all fit together. Just scroll down to about mid page.
Link: Rusty Colt and the Mysterious Resurrection of Steel - The Something Awful Forums
Last edited by SODABOTTLEBOB; Apr 14, 2012 at 08:36 PM.
Apr 14, 2012, 09:37 PM
Big Cy ~
I'm calling it quits for now, but before going I wanted to share this final link that is especially for you. In post #2 they even mention your name and were looking for you. What happened, did you miss seeing this one? I bet you would have solved it in two minutes.
Link: Gun trigger guard part help....
By the way, (and please don't mention this to anyone) but I'm starting to think the so called trigger guard (and I honestly believe that's what it is) may be from something other than a standard revolver, and possibly even a flintlock type. The reason I say this is because of my weird angle theory. The angle of it just doesn't jive with the jillions of Colt type revolvers I've been looking at. Take another look at my post #55 and you'll see what I mean. Flintlock types are the only pistols I've seen with that "slant" to them. I'll be back if I find anything specific, especially if I find a trigger guard with a nub on the end of it.
Last edited by SODABOTTLEBOB; Apr 14, 2012 at 09:53 PM.
Apr 14, 2012, 10:00 PM
I didnt see that. I miss a lot of them these days. I just dont have the time.
Apr 14, 2012, 10:16 PM
Apr 14, 2012, 10:17 PM
And, as far as taking left handed pics... It involved some cursing but it was the easiest way to hit the button on my giant smart phone with my short stubby fingers lol
Apr 14, 2012, 10:20 PM
Just had another thought... We dug quite a few .36 caliber "Teardrop" pistol bullets in the same area that I found it. If mempry serves, they used those in a Remington... But I believe it was very similar in design to a Colt... Just food or thought!
Apr 14, 2012, 10:28 PM
Off topic but i thought about you the other day... I have a giant Bowie style knife that needs stabilized and I remember you did some absolute magic on some canteens. I slacked and it has been sitting in may garage for two years and I came upon it the other day and felt dumb for not having taken any action to stabilize it. Didn't even occur to me at the time. I dug it in one of those few sited where there was absolutely no modern junk. Extremely long hike if i recall. It was a colonial site where we found a fistful of 1812 artillery buttons and some coppers and a solid shot cannon ball... This thing is huge! Still take on projects like this?
Apr 14, 2012, 10:57 PM
Ah OK smart phone. Takes good pics. It was hard for me to take a pic left handed with my camera.
Originally Posted by SoMdRelicHunter
I think you are correct. The knob may be a screw or rivet. This may be a clue.
Creskol and Bob solved it to this point but it may not be a Colt.
I dont think you can ruin iron with electrolysis. Just mix baking soda and water and connect to a battery charger. Keep plastic bucket outside. Make sure you got negative and positive correct but I forget which is which. You may corrode one of your clips if its underwater.
Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; Apr 14, 2012 at 11:04 PM.
Apr 14, 2012, 11:22 PM
I just went through 201 pages of Cast Iron Toy Pistols by Charles Best and couldn't find a match to your shape. The closest one I could find was a Stevens Firecracker, circa 1872. Breezie
Every time I watch Gone With The Wind, I think we're gonna win this time!
Apr 15, 2012, 12:10 AM
Apr 15, 2012, 11:36 AM
The following is to assist those who intend to do additional research regarding a more specific identification of this trigger guard. SoMdRelicHunter said in one of his initial post that the guard measured "roughly six inches long." So what I've done here is to add red marks that roughly indicate the six inches. The blue marks indicate appx two inches for the length of what I'm calling the Barrel Portion of the guard.
What I found of interest by doing this, is that 100% of the revolvers, both American and foreign, that I've looked at so far all have barrel portions ranging anywhere from about 1/2" inch to appx 1" inch. I have yet to find a revolver that has a barrel portion that even comes close to 2" inches. Which leads me to suspect there is more to the mystery than meets the eye. Meaning, the guard might be from a rifle or some other type of revolver or hand gun that we have yet to consider.
In the even that anyone chooses to continue the search, I suggest they pay specific attention to the length of the barrel portion. I believe there is a solid clue in this feature that will eventually lead to a more specific identification.
I wish I had a single example of a revolver trigger guard to show you that has a 2" inch barrel portion, but unfortunately I have yet to find one. Thus, please keep rifles and/or other types of hand guns in mind while conducting your searches. And please keep the angle/slant of the handle portion in mind. There is a clue there as well.
This link is one of the best I've seen that shows a huge variety of firearms, and also has incredibly clear and large pictures. Just pick your category of choice and go from there. The only bummer is you have to click on see photos to open each one individually. And there are hundreds of them, which could take hours to view. So far I have only looked at a fraction of them.
Last edited by SODABOTTLEBOB; Apr 15, 2012 at 12:33 PM.
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