Apr 15, 2012, 12:22 AM
I just went through 201 pages of Cast Iron Toy Pistols by Charles Best and couldn't find a match to your shape. The closest one I could find was a Stevens Firecracker, circa 1872. Breezie
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Apr 15, 2012, 01:10 AM
Apr 15, 2012, 12:36 PM
The following is to assist those who intend to do additional research regarding a more specific identification of this trigger guard. SoMdRelicHunter said in one of his initial post that the guard measured "roughly six inches long." So what I've done here is to add red marks that roughly indicate the six inches. The blue marks indicate appx two inches for the length of what I'm calling the Barrel Portion of the guard.
What I found of interest by doing this, is that 100% of the revolvers, both American and foreign, that I've looked at so far all have barrel portions ranging anywhere from about 1/2" inch to appx 1" inch. I have yet to find a revolver that has a barrel portion that even comes close to 2" inches. Which leads me to suspect there is more to the mystery than meets the eye. Meaning, the guard might be from a rifle or some other type of revolver or hand gun that we have yet to consider.
In the even that anyone chooses to continue the search, I suggest they pay specific attention to the length of the barrel portion. I believe there is a solid clue in this feature that will eventually lead to a more specific identification.
I wish I had a single example of a revolver trigger guard to show you that has a 2" inch barrel portion, but unfortunately I have yet to find one. Thus, please keep rifles and/or other types of hand guns in mind while conducting your searches. And please keep the angle/slant of the handle portion in mind. There is a clue there as well.
This link is one of the best I've seen that shows a huge variety of firearms, and also has incredibly clear and large pictures. Just pick your category of choice and go from there. The only bummer is you have to click on see photos to open each one individually. And there are hundreds of them, which could take hours to view. So far I have only looked at a fraction of them.
Last edited by SODABOTTLEBOB; Apr 15, 2012 at 01:33 PM.
Apr 15, 2012, 02:06 PM
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Apr 15, 2012, 05:03 PM
I agree, never give up if you feel its not the correct ID. We need to get it right. That last flintlock looks like a good possibility. Did you post it before? I keep thinking the barrel sits on the OP's piece in question but it appears the barrel sits on wood and the trigger guard is attached to the wood underneath, It also has a head knocker knob but no screw hole for the grips. We need someone to dissassemble a flintlock pistol but I dont have one.
Hey Bob how do you change colors?
Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; Apr 15, 2012 at 05:12 PM.
Apr 15, 2012, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigcypresshunter
By arrowing down on the big A of the options bar. And then clicking on the color of choice. You can do it with any word and see the results Instantly. You can even revert it back to "automatic" black.
Thanks for the support.
Apr 15, 2012, 05:25 PM
Ah OK thanks. A big black "A" for "Text Color" or A for Automatic? . Somehow I missed it and I didnt see the tiny arrow.
Originally Posted by SODABOTTLEBOB
Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; Apr 15, 2012 at 05:38 PM.
Apr 15, 2012, 05:29 PM
Im jumping on the flintlock pistol bandwagon. But the hand grip screw has me puzzled. Are there any fllinlocks with ivory grips?
Apr 15, 2012, 05:31 PM
Can you tilt it?
Originally Posted by SODABOTTLEBOB
Apr 15, 2012, 05:36 PM
Well it really can't be a sidelock flintlock like the one pictured. The way the trigger is set up just could not work. Also a flintlock like the one pictured has just a small trigger plate no more than a couple of inches long, if any at all. Some triggers are just pinned into the wood. It really just could not work with any sidelock muzzleloader. It would appear to be from some sort of firearm with a centrally located firing mechanism, not a sidelock. I really can't see it being from a revolver either, Every one I have ever seen had the trigger mounted into the frame, no way it could be fastened to a triggerguard. Another possibility would be to some sort of Civil War era carbine, there were many different types and all sorts of trigger and breech arrangements. There is also the chance that it is much newer, and part of a cartridge type gun, or even some sort of flare gun. Further cleaning may be the only way to get more information on it, but it may be too far rusted for that.
Apr 15, 2012, 05:53 PM
I thought the possibility that the trigger was frozen with the trigger guard in a clump of mud and rust, certainly not fastened to it.
Originally Posted by l.cutler
Apr 15, 2012, 05:54 PM
I hear what you're saying 100%. I admit I don't know the difference between a sidelock and a padlock. I'm mainly trying to emphasize my belief that there is a major clue to be found in the angle of the handle portion.
Last edited by SODABOTTLEBOB; Apr 15, 2012 at 06:06 PM.
Apr 15, 2012, 06:27 PM
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IMHO,that trigger guard is to cheesy looking to come off any real gun.It just looks like what I would think of as a toy.Rather that would be a cap gun,BB gun,hell I've even seen vintage cross bow triggers that look like that but no real bang bang guns that come to my mind.Couple pics. below to see what I'm saying.
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Apr 15, 2012, 06:29 PM
This all is out of my league now .... ..... good luck with the ID.
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