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  1. #1

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    Mask

    This was found by a friend of mine stashed in an old barn at her 1700's house. It appears to be hand carved and the wood appears to be mahogany or walnut or some other dark hardwood. The beads appear to be glass and the golden color around the nose and forehead are metal pieces in the wood and appear to be brass(?) there are also ethcings in some of the brass which appears to be a sun with rays coming out of it. The mask is appoximately 20-24 inches long and about 8 inches wide. Any ideas on origin and age?
    Thanks!!!!
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    Last edited by Mainedigger; May 09, 2012 at 06:33 AM.
    So many promising sites to detect...so little time....

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    Could it be West African? Looks similar to ones that I have seen. Those metal plates may be bronze.

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    Old Digger....it could be West African...The owner thought it might be Native American, but to me ( and I am no expert, and is more of a huge guess) it looked more Polynesian? Forgot to add that the location it was found was in a barn in the Sebago Lake region of Maine.
    So many promising sites to detect...so little time....

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    Your right it could be Polynesian.

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    That is a mask from the Kuba tribe from the Congo. The Kuba were one of the few African tribes with masks featuring beads and metal (the Kuba were expert brass smiths), and many Kuba masks feature the triangle pattern on the forehead. These masks were made in the mid 18th century and are extremely rare. If you want to sell it, I'll be happy to make you an offer!
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    Sep 2006
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    Zendog....thanks much for the info, much appreciated!! The mask was found by a friend of mine and as far as I know she is not interested in selling it, however if she changes her mind I will pass along your name to her.

    Now I am REALLY curious as to how a 1700's West African mask ended up hidden under the floorboards of a barn in Maine, although this location was rumored to be a stop on the underground railroad, but nothing confirmed...
    Last edited by Mainedigger; May 09, 2012 at 05:48 AM.
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    I found this guy will attempting to research your mask.

    Ask the Mask
    Man

    Send your photos and description to bob.Ibold@verizon.net. If I can't
    tell you exactly what it is, hopefully someone will email an opinion.
    While I have aimed in my postings to be irenic and conciliatory, rather than polemic, I have yet endeavored to set forth the
    truth, let it favor or impugn whom it might. Any notice of misrepresentations or mistakes occurring in these prose will be most thankfully received
    by the author.

  8. #8

    Sep 2006
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCMatt View Post
    I found this guy will attempting to research your mask.

    Ask the Mask
    Man

    Send your photos and description to bob.Ibold@verizon.net. If I can't
    tell you exactly what it is, hopefully someone will email an opinion.
    Thanks for that DC, sent an e-mail along to him....am curious as to what he has to say.
    So many promising sites to detect...so little time....

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    History of Slavery In Maine

    I stumbled across an article which might help explain how the mask got there, I'll copy and past an exerpt:

    There were certainly more slaves in South Carolina than there were in Maine, and many may not even be aware of Maine’s history of slavery. True, no Maine city was home to the slave markets that existed throughout the South and closer to home in northern cities like New York, Boston, or even Portsmouth. Yet Mainers owned slaves and took an active and profitable role in the slave trade. And in Portland, slavery is found at the very dawn of the city’s history.


    At the time it was called Falmouth, and it included the land where presently sit the towns of Portland, Falmouth, Westbrook, Scarborough, and Cape Elizabeth. The city was founded by two men and their families, and one of these families, that headed by George Cleaves, owned a slave by the name of Oliver Weeks. Cleaves and his partner Richard Tucker were evicted from the island that is still named Richmond’s Island off the coast of present day Cape Elizabeth. From the island they sailed a few miles north and, with the help of their slave, founded Portland when they built a trading post near where the Casco Bay parking garage now stands.


    Slavery was legal in Maine because Maine was a part of Massachusetts until 1820, and slavery was legal in Massachusetts until 1783.


    According to the estimates of Randolph Stakeman, a Bowdoin history professor who wrote “Slavery in Colonial Maine” in the fall 1987 edition of the Maine Historical Quarterly, there were probably never more than 500 or 600 slaves in Maine at one time. The low slave population was partly due to the fact that not that many white colonialists lived in Maine either. Still, even back then, Maine was pretty white-bread: according to a 1764 census, blacks made up less than two percent of the population. Compared with southern states, this is extremely low.

    (taken from NEVER FORGET)

  10. #10

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCMatt View Post
    I found this guy will attempting to research your mask.

    Ask the Mask
    Man

    Send your photos and description to bob.Ibold@verizon.net. If I can't
    tell you exactly what it is, hopefully someone will email an opinion.
    Bob seems to think it is a tourist mask.
    So many promising sites to detect...so little time....

  11. #11

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    Well that's a definite possibility. Only a few tribes used materials like metal or beads in their ceremonial masks, so it could have been made for the tourist trade. However, since tourist items were still almost always created by actual natives, if the mask is old enough, it still has some value.

  12. #12

    Sep 2006
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    Quote Originally Posted by zendog64 View Post
    Well that's a definite possibility. Only a few tribes used materials like metal or beads in their ceremonial masks, so it could have been made for the tourist trade. However, since tourist items were still almost always created by actual natives, if the mask is old enough, it still has some value.
    Well I am no expert and know nothing about masks, however to me it looks authentic and appears very old and was obviously in that barn for a loooong time due to its location and the conditions it was found in. The pictures really don;t do the mask justice. But then again, I may be just the sucker that the tourist mask makers target...
    So many promising sites to detect...so little time....

 

 

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