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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcypresshunter View Post
    Modern plating would be very thin. Pawn shop or jewelry store tommorrow let us know.
    Ya for sure... The edge i scratched is pretty deep...
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    The image here at TN on my monitor is kinda small but I was able to view it full size when I moved it to my files. I can see now that the wording on the shield side is messed up badly. The other side is a bit better but still jibberish. I would have to conclude that this is faked, not a stamped antique coin.

    I cropped and rotated right side up. Attachment 635942Attachment 635942

    Double click to enlarge. Letters can look funky as they wear down but not this bad. May be yellow brass.
    Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; May 15, 2012 at 01:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eclipsegt3 View Post
    ive re-tested the coin several times.. the scratch on the stone does nothing with 10k acid test solution .....but 14k solution turns it green so does 18 an 22

    ive wore off a good chunk of the edge of the coin.. its still gold all the way threw.
    Sounds like you have your answer, If you see green, you are likely dealing with a base metal or a gold-plated coin.

    SS

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivan salis View Post
    remember this * reales were made of silver * --it took 2 - 8 reale coins - 16 reales to equal a 1 escaudo (gold coin) --the offical spanish govt rate was 16 silver reales = 1 escaudo of gold --

    there are no 4 reale "gold" coins - if its a 4 reale coin --either its a "real" silver 4 reale thats been "gold plated" -- or its a 12k gold plated base metal core replica or solid 12 k replica jewelry piece -- 12 k gold was often commonly used during the victorian age --civil war to 1900 era by the way --after 1900 --10 k became more the common mans jewelry with 14 k and 18 k used by folks with a bit more cash to spend


    It's definitely not a genuine coin that has been plated because it's cast. Lots of fakes around.

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    Seeing a gold color on a scratch test simply means it's plated brass.

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    Another data point that is off is the weight; A full 8-pesos or 8-escudos coin would weigh 27.468 grams. Yours, at between four and five grams would be too heavy for a 1X and too light for a 2X (3.4 and 6.8 respectfully). Yes, coins are, in many cases 'light', but yours, with its 'fullness' (visible lack of use and not 'clipped') should be closer to 6.8 grams.I'll stand by my original assessment that it's a replica since the lettering should be distinquishable, not garbled.
    Don........

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    After further research I found this entry from a posting on 7/29/07.
    (The reference is "coin #3)

    http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=17297

    QUOTING: Looking at the 'coin' this poster is referring to, it is very similar to yours.
    The legends are Fantasy letters which superficially resemble the style of Gothic Lettering but they are totally meaningless. It was made as a "Tourist Copy" of some sort but is missing the word "COPY" so it must be over 20 years old if it originated in the US.


    Pictures of the above referenced ‘coin’ and significant comment can be found in the “dutch4” response on 7/29/07 here:
    http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=17297
    Don.......
    Last edited by Mackaydon; May 15, 2012 at 10:13 AM.

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    I was basing my early guesses on the assumption its gold but I think you guys are correct. Its looking like yellow brass.

    Nitric Acid will indeed turn green. I dont know about the scratch test and different karat solutions used by pawn shops.
    Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; May 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM.

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    What does it weigh? Judging by it's size if it was a 22k coin it should way anywhere from 12-18 grams if it weighs less than that he chances are it is a reproduction coin. Also if you are getting any reaction with the 14k acid there is no way it's a genuine coin. Neat find though
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    If that was my coin I'd have a bezel made and wair it on a gold chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leprechaun View Post
    If that was my coin I'd have a bezel made and wair it on a gold chain.
    A lot of fakes are made for that purpose, even gold plated ones.

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    Call around where you live and find a gold buyer that has one of those thermal guns that will tell you the compisition of the coin, I think that will answer alot of your questions..........Scott.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodbuster209 View Post
    Call around where you live and find a gold buyer that has one of those thermal guns that will tell you the compisition of the coin, I think that will answer alot of your questions..........Scott.
    thats what i was going to do.. didnt get a chance today.. hopefully tomorrow
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    Any word yet?

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    Should've been obvious from the first photos that this is a poorly-cast fake. With such poor workmanship, I Seriously doubt that it is any more than plated. Mark it Solved and move on.
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    Yes time to mark it solved. Its not hard to find someone to test gold. I think the OP has a duty to inform the readers of the test results. So many times an OP will ask for our time and assistance and then rudely walk away. In this case, the OP has just forgotten or was busy because he hasnt logged in since May 16..

 

 
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