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    Need button ID, and more

    I would like to learn more about this button I dug up. It says "CANADA" across the top, and I can make out the word "defense" above the right side of the Maple Leaf. There is a shank on the back, but no writing at all. Also the heart shaped item is unknown to me. It seems a little heavy duty to be a hat pin...thanks in advance.
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    Have you IDed the patented item? Looks like a shirt cuff thing.

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    'Maple leaf' looks like a Canadian - General Service Button between 1924 and 1946--like this:http://www.kellybadge.co.uk/images/J2E629.jpg
    Don.....

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    Thanks mackaydon, you are right. Bigcypresshunter, I'm not sure what it is, says patent 94 and 96, I assume 1894...

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Cache View Post
    Thanks mackaydon, you are right. Bigcypresshunter, I'm not sure what it is, says patent 94 and 96, I assume 1894...
    It looks like a cuff holder but if you tell me EXACTLY what you think it says reading top to bottom and left to right, I can look up the patent. I need the month and day. I cant see it. A close up pic would also work.
    Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; May 25, 2012 at 12:21 AM.

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    Looks like there are 2 patents (PAT'D) the first one is MAR (March). The name of the manufacturer or item is also on top but we cant read it.,

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    Cool stuff! Ok, I can't seem to get a better picture so I'll tell you exactly what is says. WASHBURNE PAT'D Mar 27, 94 Feb 4, 96

    Thanks Bigcypresshunter...

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    Some people like to think these are card cheatrers to hide a card up your sleeve but I have my doubts. Antique Arms, Inc. - Antique 19th Century Card Cheater Devices
    Attachment 639398

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    Wow, that is very cool. Thanks for the info, I appreciate your investigative work. Now that you've pointed me in the right direction, I am going to search for more info on this.

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    When I get a chance Ill search for the patent. I believe its a cuff holder nothing more. Sears Roebuck sold them as well. My regular computer is in the shop.

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    Thanks Bigcypresshunter...[/QUOTE]
    Your very welcome. Some posters lately dont even reply back.

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    Here's another onliner's response: Your fastener is a Washburne "Bull-Dog Grip" cuff holder invented by James V. Washburne of Morrison, Ill. Washburne was a prolific inventor of clips, clasps and fasteners for clothing, key chains and paper.
    Don...

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    And yet another:
    The clip is popularly called a cheater card clip, poker card hold-out, sleeve card cheat among others. Supposedly it was used to hold that ace up your sleeve. It is marked “WASHBURNE”, “PAT MAR. 27 94” and “PAT FEB. 4 96”. It measures approximately 1 and 7/8ths inches long.
    However, in his patent applications, James V. Washburne of Morrison, Illinois, described this item as a “Cuff Holder” (Patent 517,084 issued 3/27/1894) and “Clasp” (Patent 553,972 issued 2/4/1896) This cuff holder and other clips, clasps and fasteners patented by Washburne were advertised as “Bull-Dog Grip” fasteners.
    Source: Washburne Sleeve Clip Card Cheater Poker Hold Out by queenofsienna
    Don.....

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    Thanks a lot everybody. This is the first time I have used the "what is it" forum, but I'll be back for sure. I would say this one should be marked "solved".

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    Thanks for the backup and supporting links Mackaydon. Like I said, I have my doubts and I always believed that the card cheater is someones imagination. Like I said, these are cuff holders and nothing more. Im not saying that someone may have somehow used a cuff holder to hide a card. I suppose its possible. And like I said, these were sold by Sears Roebuck in their mail order catalog.

    I took a pick of a page in my 1909 Sears Roebuck & Co catalog. Look bottom left is a Wizard Cuff Holder. Look along the right hand side of the page and you will see Mens Linen cuffs, Boys linen, celluoid and rubber cuffs. Apparently collars and cuffs were added to a shirt for dress up.

    I wonder if you could dress up and old dirty T shirt lol for Sunday church. I remember as a kid we always had our special "Sunday go-to-meeting" shirt. I even see they sell clip on shirt fronts. Apparently they needed clips for everything even socks.
    Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; May 27, 2012 at 11:33 AM.

 

 

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