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    Need button ID, and more

    I would like to learn more about this button I dug up. It says "CANADA" across the top, and I can make out the word "defense" above the right side of the Maple Leaf. There is a shank on the back, but no writing at all. Also the heart shaped item is unknown to me. It seems a little heavy duty to be a hat pin...thanks in advance.
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    Have you IDed the patented item? Looks like a shirt cuff thing.

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    Oct 2004
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    'Maple leaf' looks like a Canadian - General Service Button between 1924 and 1946--like this:http://www.kellybadge.co.uk/images/J2E629.jpg
    Don.....

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    Thanks mackaydon, you are right. Bigcypresshunter, I'm not sure what it is, says patent 94 and 96, I assume 1894...

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Cache View Post
    Thanks mackaydon, you are right. Bigcypresshunter, I'm not sure what it is, says patent 94 and 96, I assume 1894...
    It looks like a cuff holder but if you tell me EXACTLY what you think it says reading top to bottom and left to right, I can look up the patent. I need the month and day. I cant see it. A close up pic would also work.
    Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; May 25, 2012 at 12:21 AM.

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    Looks like there are 2 patents (PAT'D) the first one is MAR (March). The name of the manufacturer or item is also on top but we cant read it.,

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    Cool stuff! Ok, I can't seem to get a better picture so I'll tell you exactly what is says. WASHBURNE PAT'D Mar 27, 94 Feb 4, 96

    Thanks Bigcypresshunter...

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    Some people like to think these are card cheatrers to hide a card up your sleeve but I have my doubts. Antique Arms, Inc. - Antique 19th Century Card Cheater Devices
    Attachment 639398

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    Wow, that is very cool. Thanks for the info, I appreciate your investigative work. Now that you've pointed me in the right direction, I am going to search for more info on this.

  10. #10
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    When I get a chance Ill search for the patent. I believe its a cuff holder nothing more. Sears Roebuck sold them as well. My regular computer is in the shop.

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    Dec 2004
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  12. #12
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    Thanks Bigcypresshunter...[/QUOTE]
    Your very welcome. Some posters lately dont even reply back.

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    Oct 2004
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    Here's another onliner's response: Your fastener is a Washburne "Bull-Dog Grip" cuff holder invented by James V. Washburne of Morrison, Ill. Washburne was a prolific inventor of clips, clasps and fasteners for clothing, key chains and paper.
    Don...

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    And yet another:
    The clip is popularly called a cheater card clip, poker card hold-out, sleeve card cheat among others. Supposedly it was used to hold that ace up your sleeve. It is marked “WASHBURNE”, “PAT MAR. 27 94” and “PAT FEB. 4 96”. It measures approximately 1 and 7/8ths inches long.
    However, in his patent applications, James V. Washburne of Morrison, Illinois, described this item as a “Cuff Holder” (Patent 517,084 issued 3/27/1894) and “Clasp” (Patent 553,972 issued 2/4/1896) This cuff holder and other clips, clasps and fasteners patented by Washburne were advertised as “Bull-Dog Grip” fasteners.
    Source: Washburne Sleeve Clip Card Cheater Poker Hold Out by queenofsienna
    Don.....

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    Thanks a lot everybody. This is the first time I have used the "what is it" forum, but I'll be back for sure. I would say this one should be marked "solved".

 

 
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