Jun 14, 2012, 01:57 PM
Small brass bugle found in Wyoming. What is it off of ?
Last edited by fortbybee; Jun 14, 2012 at 02:41 PM.
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Jun 14, 2012, 02:07 PM
Jun 14, 2012, 02:13 PM
a military hat badge (1880?)
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Jun 14, 2012, 02:50 PM
Here is a Civil War Confederate insignia Looks pretty big for a hat type.
Last edited by Kieth-Tx; Jun 14, 2012 at 02:52 PM.
Jun 14, 2012, 02:58 PM
The bugle is 4 inches long. Fort D A Russell is about 20 miles from where I found it.
Jun 14, 2012, 03:05 PM
Jun 14, 2012, 09:22 PM
Definitely a US Army Infantry hat-insignia, Enlisted-man's style, from 1851 to 1871. It was replaced in 1872 by a smaller horn with tassels wrapped around two places on the horn.
As the photos below indicate, the one you dug has been "stretched out" from its original width.
Last edited by TheCannonballGuy; Jun 14, 2012 at 09:26 PM.
Jun 15, 2012, 08:58 AM
Wow ! Thats great. Thank you so much for the pictures and information. It makes it an even better find when you have that kind of information to go with it.
Jun 15, 2012, 02:56 PM
Thanks for the picture and information !
Jun 15, 2012, 03:47 PM
Jun 15, 2012, 08:54 PM
I should have mentioned, the photo on the right shows an excavated specimen's front. The photo on the left shows a non-excavated ("non-dug") specimen's back. I included the non-exacavted back view to show the CORRECT original brass wire attachment-loops. The loops were held onto the insignia with a spot of solder. The attachment-loops are usually missing on excavated specimens.
The reason I said "CORRECT" attachment is that many non-exacavated Originals, and most Reproductions, have a straight wire as the attachment method. When you see one of these US 1851-to-1871 Enlisted-man's hat insignia with straight wire instead of a loop, it means the Enlisted-man's hat insignia is either Post-Civil-War or a Reproduction. Here is a photo of some specimens sold by Bannerman's Surplus, long after the Civil War ended, with the straight wires. Please do NOT pay a civil war relic price for these with straight wire. It should be a brass wire LOOP, with both ends of the wire loop embedded in the solder-spot, as you see in the photo I posted previously.
Last edited by TheCannonballGuy; Jun 15, 2012 at 08:57 PM.
Jun 15, 2012, 11:46 PM
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Jun 16, 2012, 07:11 AM
Very interesting. This one has a solder spot on each end no pins or loops left on it. I have found alot of pre 1876 45-70 cartridges and rim fire cartridges on the same hill top.Also eagle buttons and nap sack hooks. I need a good artifact book on these types of finds. Do you know of one that shows lots of pictures ? Thanks again for all the great info. May
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