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  1. #1
    us
    Jun 2012
    Carpenter Wyoming
    Garrett Ace 250
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    Metal Detecting

    Small brass bugle found in Wyoming. What is it off of ?

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  2. #2
    us
    May 2012
    Treasure Coast-Florida
    Bounty Hunter Pioneer and Tesoro deLeon
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    Very nice finds!!

  3. #3
    a military hat badge (1880?)
    Last edited by CRUSADER; Jun 14, 2012 at 04:42 PM.
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  4. #4

    Jun 2006
    Victoria & Corpus Christi Texas
    Xterra 705, Tejon, 1270, Stingray II & CZ-20
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    Here is a Civil War Confederate insignia Looks pretty big for a hat type.
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    Last edited by Kieth-Tx; Jun 14, 2012 at 02:52 PM.

  5. #5
    us
    Jun 2012
    Carpenter Wyoming
    Garrett Ace 250
    16
    Metal Detecting
    The bugle is 4 inches long. Fort D A Russell is about 20 miles from where I found it.

  6. #6
    us
    Jun 2012
    Carpenter Wyoming
    Garrett Ace 250
    16
    Metal Detecting
    HOW BIG IS THAT ONE ?

  7. #7
    Educator

    Feb 2006
    Occupied CSA (Richmond VA)
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    Definitely a US Army Infantry hat-insignia, Enlisted-man's style, from 1851 to 1871. It was replaced in 1872 by a smaller horn with tassels wrapped around two places on the horn.

    As the photos below indicate, the one you dug has been "stretched out" from its original width.
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  8. #8
    us
    Jun 2012
    Carpenter Wyoming
    Garrett Ace 250
    16
    Metal Detecting
    Wow ! Thats great. Thank you so much for the pictures and information. It makes it an even better find when you have that kind of information to go with it.

  9. #9
    us
    Jun 2012
    Carpenter Wyoming
    Garrett Ace 250
    16
    Metal Detecting
    Thanks for the picture and information !

  10. #10

    Feb 2007
    Bradenton, Fl
    ACE 250, Minelab Excal II, ETrac
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    very cool find!
    Debby

  11. #11
    Educator

    Feb 2006
    Occupied CSA (Richmond VA)
    White's 6000, Nautilus DMC-1, Minelab
    3,672
    2607 times
    Relic Hunting
    I should have mentioned, the photo on the right shows an excavated specimen's front. The photo on the left shows a non-excavated ("non-dug") specimen's back. I included the non-exacavted back view to show the CORRECT original brass wire attachment-loops. The loops were held onto the insignia with a spot of solder. The attachment-loops are usually missing on excavated specimens.

    The reason I said "CORRECT" attachment is that many non-exacavated Originals, and most Reproductions, have a straight wire as the attachment method. When you see one of these US 1851-to-1871 Enlisted-man's hat insignia with straight wire instead of a loop, it means the Enlisted-man's hat insignia is either Post-Civil-War or a Reproduction. Here is a photo of some specimens sold by Bannerman's Surplus, long after the Civil War ended, with the straight wires. Please do NOT pay a civil war relic price for these with straight wire. It should be a brass wire LOOP, with both ends of the wire loop embedded in the solder-spot, as you see in the photo I posted previously.
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  12. #12
    us
    Jan 2011
    Dalton,Ga.
    Whites MXT, E Trac, Garrett Pro Pinpointer
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    Very cool find! ...HH


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    -Samuel Adams-

  13. #13
    us
    Jun 2012
    Carpenter Wyoming
    Garrett Ace 250
    16
    Metal Detecting
    Very interesting. This one has a solder spot on each end no pins or loops left on it. I have found alot of pre 1876 45-70 cartridges and rim fire cartridges on the same hill top.Also eagle buttons and nap sack hooks. I need a good artifact book on these types of finds. Do you know of one that shows lots of pictures ? Thanks again for all the great info. May

 

 

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