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    Atocha silver

    I bought this little silver bar today it weighs 32 grams and I'm not sure what it is its not a coin I'm just trying to see what it's worth and what it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dtart88 View Post
    I bought this little silver bar today it weighs 32 grams and I'm not sure what it is its not a coin I'm just trying to see what it's worth and what it is
    We need a picture front and back with something for size reference in the pic.

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    This was the previously shown pic:

    Thanks, tnMts.
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    With a clean pic of the stamps it might be identifiable but the AR alone with the star above draws a blank
    English silver hallmarks: British maker's marks identification AR

    Attachment 733913

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    Thats definitely something for the Spanish Cobs Forum

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    This should do it....as to explaining the bar.
    Articles:*Study on a Shipwreck Silver Bar recovered from Nuestra Seņora de Atocha - Daniel Frank Sedwick, LLC. Specialists in the colonial coinage of Spanish America as well as shipwreck coins
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    Note: The foundry date on the bar is 1677; 55 years after the Atocha sank.
    Last edited by Mackaydon; Jan 31, 2013 at 11:32 PM.

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    So it's a 1oz scaled down reproduction souvenir most likely, having no connection to the Atocha or to the owners AR mark being that he died with the ship when it sank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackaydon View Post
    This should do it....as to explaining the bar.
    Articles:*Study on a Shipwreck Silver Bar recovered from Nuestra Seņora de Atocha - Daniel Frank Sedwick, LLC. Specialists in the colonial coinage of Spanish America as well as shipwreck coins
    Don.....
    Note: The foundry date on the bar is 1677; 55 years after the Atocha sank.

    Under zoom on the date, I believe it is 1622 and not 1677.
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    Found it. It is a small replica of an original silver bar. ATOCHA COINS ATC Atocha Treasure Company LLC Atocha Pirate Pendants Sterling Silver Bezels Chains

    It should be real silver though!

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    Under your zoom, I can buy into the '22' date, which makes more sense. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 72cheyenne View Post
    Found it. It is a small replica of an original silver bar. ATOCHA COINS ATC Atocha Treasure Company LLC Atocha Pirate Pendants Sterling Silver Bezels Chains

    It should be real silver though!

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    The pic posted does not look the same to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcypresshunter View Post
    The pic posted does not look the same to me.

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    I agree BCH that they are not the same, but from the short research I did, all the ingots that the Atocha was carrying were like 80 troy pounds. I believe these small "replica" bars have been created to commemorate the payload. If you noticed on the site they had replica Spanish Reales set in necklaces as well, but made it a point to say that the pieces were replicas. I believe that the original piece in question on this thread is most likely a replica as well, unless someone with further knowledge of Spanish silver can confirm that there actually were ingots made in a 32 gram size. If they were going to make bars that small, why not just make it into a Reale.
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