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  1. #31
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    Re: what is it?

    A female hand, restraints and a paddle. Just where are you going with this Michelle?

    kenb

  2. #32

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    Re: what is it?

    Folks, I don't know what it is. Here's a few retouched photos that may bring out some detail for ya
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  3. #33

    Re: what is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by PBK
    Quote Originally Posted by dugfinds
    I said it looks more like a cricket bat. (Than a chisel) Not that it is one.
    So you did.

    However, Tyre Kicker said...

    Quote Originally Posted by tyre kicker
    Definitely a cricket bat
    That's because if you look at the handle it's notched into the blade the same as a cricket bat.
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  4. #34
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    Re: what is it?

    Cricket Bat it is............This medal is dated 1892.. Guess the patients at the assylum played Cricket....Why Not
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  5. #35
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    Re: what is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by kenb
    A female hand, resraints and a paddle. Just where are you going with this Michelle?

    kenb
    Did I say that? Came out the wrong way...Anyway maybe it IS a womans cricket badge
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  6. #36
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    Re: what is it?

    so is it a really really small cricket bat or a really really big hand??
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  7. #37
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    Re: what is it?

    Seems to be as most medals or medallions that it is proportioned to the hand ... being it was made in the late 1890's maybe the perfection wasnt quite there...Just a guess but maybe it is a childs cricket badge/bat
    So many tangles in life are so ultimately hopeless that there is no appropriate sword,other than laughter.......

  8. #38
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    Re: what is it?

    Like MechTech, I'd like to know why the hand is several sizes too large— or the cricket bat several sizes too small.

    And I'd also (still) like to know why the bat is being grasped upside down, by the blade instead of the handle. Is the Jolly Green Giant taking it away from Sir Don Bradman, or what?

    These aren't exactly minor details.

    However, if it is a cricket badge of some sort, there should be other badges showing reasonably similar designs: giant hand holding bat by the blade, etc.— but I haven't seen and can't find any.

    Time for me to sit back and watch someone else take a whack at this one!





  9. #39
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    Re: what is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle
    Seems to be as most medals or medallions that it is proportioned to the hand ... being it was made in the late 1890's maybe the perfection wasnt quite there...Just a guess but maybe it is a childs cricket badge/bat

    Uh, many things made in the 1800's were made better than they are now, so I don't believe that is the case. That being said, the "bat", doesn't look right to me. It's shaped more like a sword, or knife to me.

    John

  10. #40
    history.hunter

    Re: what is it?

    Ok, I still think that is a womans hand. I don't think that is a bat of any kind. Why would anything be made depicting the improper hand hold on a bat. That being said. What would a woman hold like that? You would think the hand would be holding the small handle if that were the way it was supposed to be gripped.

  11. #41
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    Re: what is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by PBK

    And I'd also (still) like to know why the bat is being grasped upside down, by the blade instead of the handle. Is the Jolly Green Giant taking it away from Sir Don Bradman, or what?
    Ditto PBK. Well said.

  12. #42
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    Re: what is it?

    Chalice? Powder Flask?

  13. #43
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    Re: what is it?

    Chalise or flask? Sorry, it is pressed brass or copper. This is a back view








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  14. #44
    dugupfinds

    Re: what is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by PBK
    Like MechTech, I'd like to know why the hand is several sizes too large— or the cricket bat several sizes too small.

    And I'd also (still) like to know why the bat is being grasped upside down, by the blade instead of the handle. Is the Jolly Green Giant taking it away from Sir Don Bradman, or what?

    These aren't exactly minor details.

    However, if it is a cricket badge of some sort, there should be other badges showing reasonably similar designs: giant hand holding bat by the blade, etc.— but I haven't seen and can't find any.

    Time for me to sit back and watch someone else take a whack at this one!



    Heres my whack:

    Although I said I didn't say it IS one;

    What does it look like other than the bat, which I suggested was a closer match than a chisel.

    Firstly not everything that was made in the past makes sense to us now & it doen't need to be logical. It could have any number of hidden meanings. I know this from my extensive research of Saxon objects.

    What tool/item do you hold in that manner which looks like the item in the picture? (I suggest none)

    Tyre-Kicker has shown one feature of the picture which is identical. Another three is the early string grip, the curved end of the bat, and the handle which is in the right proportion to the bat. Thats 4 identical features.

    Can onyone come up with a better match?

    This is my theory:

    Now that I have seen the reverse, I think it attached to the wooden base of a trophy. I have seen many similar shaped press brass attachments.

    The over sized hand holding the bat up in victory.

    My fiance's theory about the size of the hand is that it symbolised the skill of the team rather than the tool (?)

    Where are peoples suggestion for what the hand is holding? (other than a Fraternity paddleby Angelo, which I quite like) Instead of saying what it isn't.

  15. #45
    PBK
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    Re: what is it?

    I have never said that the item in the hand did not in the least resemble a cricket bat— obviously it does, or we wouldn't be having this discussion. What I have said is that the sizes of the two appear highly disproportionate, and that grasping the bat by the blade rather than the handle seems odd as well.

    If it is indeed cricket-related, then perhaps someone at the following organization can confirm that identification and provide photographic proof in the form of a similar or identical "large hand & cricket bat" symbol:

    http://cricketmemorabilia.org/Officials.html




 

 
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