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    Isn't this a bit too large to be carved out of a bullet (asked the American CW ignorant european)?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by yaxthri View Post
    Isn't this a bit too large to be carved out of a bullet (asked the American CW ignorant european)?...
    ...thats why I said..."Trench art/Bullets"....the bullets could have been melted,or it could have been carved from stock/strip lead
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    Aaaaah, all clear now... makes sense.
    Very nice find and the anonymous fellow artist of those old days really had talent!

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    I also found an old piece of strip lead. Looked like i had the end shaved off. This area is rich with CW artifacts. Found a harmonica reed in the creek last week. One piece

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    That is amazing! What a great find. It makes me wonder who made it and what became of him.

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    Found an enfield bullet with teeth marks on it. Looks he may have bit the bullet literally

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    I'm gonna take a pic of my .69 caliber I found a few miles away from this carving and do a size comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by primetime21 View Post
    Found an enfield bullet with teeth marks on it. Looks he may have bit the bullet literally

    I'm gonna take a pic of my .69 caliber I found a few miles away from this carving and do a size comparison.
    Surgeons would put a bullet between the teeth of soldiers when amputating limbs or probing for bullets, hence the saying "Bite the bullet".

    Can you weigh the .69 cal and compare it to the weight of the carving? This would help determine if it could have been carved or even formed from a bullet.
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    If this is CW, then it is a banner find. Did you find ANYTHING else in the Immediate area of where this was found?
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    Why yes I did.

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    The .69 def weighs more. They would have had to flatten the bullet out a little but it's possible.

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    If it is a CW carved (and there are quite a few documented lead carvings in CW artifact books, I don't have any of my books on hand rite now since I am not home at this moment but others may be able to look up some) then the soldier would have probably made a round ball in a mold then let extra lead drippings hang out too make extra piece of lead, then after it was dried used that to carve it.. Note: If you ever dug civil war melted lead in camps which you dig more than shotgun shells sometimes you can get the feel for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 49r Relics View Post
    Surgeons would put a bullet between the teeth of soldiers when amputating limbs or probing for bullets, hence the saying "Bite the bullet".
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    Not to get off topic but from my research i find that the soldiers would have used leather or something in that nature to bite down on during amputations and not a bullet in most cases. Bullets were bit on during treatment of wounds and stuff like that!! but biting down on bullets during amputations I think that is a basically a myth imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by HutSiteDigger View Post

    Not to get off topic but from my research i find that the soldiers would have used leather or something in that nature to bite down on during amputations and not a bullet in most cases. Bullets were bit on during treatment of wounds and stuff like that!! but biting down on bullets during amputations I think that is a basically a myth imo
    Makes sense, if I bit down on a bullet right now, I would definitely break some teeth. I just know that several excavations have recovered lead that had teeth marks in it, and they were most often found around known locations where there was surgical activity. And I saw a couple found by relic hunters on this site over the years. So we know that soldiers were biting on them for some reason but I agree, leather would be Much better. Sorry to get off topic.

    I see no reason why that couldn't have been carved from a .69 cal and can clearly see the white patina is consistent with dug CW era lead. Still think its an amazing, even astounding find! Definitely a museum piece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 49r Relics View Post

    Makes sense, if I bit down on a bullet right now, I would definitely break some teeth. I just know that several excavations have recovered lead that had teeth marks in it, and they were most often found around known locations where there was surgical activity. And I saw a couple found by relic hunters on this site over the years. So we know that soldiers were biting on them for some reason but I agree, leather would be Much better. Sorry to get off topic.

    I see no reason why that couldn't have been carved from a .69 cal and can clearly see the white patina is consistent with dug CW era lead. Still think its an amazing, even astounding find! Definitely a museum piece.
    I have found one. But remember lead is a soft metal!

 

 
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