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    Found this old sword - maker and age?

    So I came across this sword at a garage sale, and while I am far from a weapons expert, it looked quit old and authentic. Just looking for a "second" and "third" opinion on whether it is real and manufacturer/age? My suspicion is a German made gentleman's hunting sword 18th century or 19th century?

    Any and all thoughts, opinions are appreciated!

    thanks.
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    Are there any stamps on the blade near the hilt?
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    ^^^^^ Any markings on the blade?

    Does appear to be a hunting sword (aka Hanger"). I believe the dog heads on the cross-guard were used by Germanic States and the French.
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    I cant seem to remove blade form scabbard - don't want to destroy sword

    how could I try to remove the sword form scabbard without breaking it...oil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad1978 View Post
    how could I try to remove the sword form scabbard without breaking it...oil?
    Then, are you sure you bought a sword? Maybe its just a decorative thing cobbled from pieces.
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    First things first; you have to separate it from the scabbard. Is the very tip of the scabbard intact? it looks like it may be broken off. If so, get some oil on the blade through the break. If not, try to get some between the sword hilt and the scabbard. Don't get into too big of a rush. The scabbard looks fragile. EXCELLENT find!
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    Two choices: a good penetrating oil (Liquid Wrench, PB Blast, Barricade) or a corrosion breaker/preventive (CorrosionX)

    Try not to get any on the grip, so apply it point down. Let it sit overnight (or longer).

    But first - is it a leather scabbard, or leather over brass? If it is a leather scabbard the blade may be the only thing holding it together. Soooo . . . if it is valuable you may destroy some of the value. Someone who is a capable restorer may be able to stabilize the scabbard AND get the blade out.

    So you have to decide whether you want our free, unprofessional help based on little images or to present it in person to someone who knows their stuff and can examine it first-hand.
    Last edited by Charlie P. (NY); Dec 04, 2017 at 01:37 PM.
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    Wow very nice, Looks to be very old.
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    have the metals tested
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    what he said, oh and have it appraised before you do anything to it.
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    Let a professional look at it first!!!!!!
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    new info on the sword - makers mark revealed but cant read all of it

    Hello everyone, so I made some more progress with this unidentified sword. I cleaned off some of the metal areas, and you can see that it all seems to be silver, not bronze or copper as I thought. It also revealed some manufacturer's name on the scabbard where the blade meets the hilt. I can't make out the entire words, only "MARR&".. If anyone has more info based on this new information please let me know, much appreciated. Here are some pictures with the makers mark...
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    looks like
    marr & t w
    arit ?n d?? Y ??
    3rd word ?

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    wowza that is sweet home run on this

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    yes sir, a home run, but I still don;t know exact age period. Kind of a "double edged" sword (never mind the pun)....it's great to know its silver and see a mark, but cant read the entire writing...even with my magnifying lens I can not make out the words.....arghhhh, so frustrating....ha ha
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