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    What are these!?

    Found on old swiss rifles (1940's I believe). They are pins but otherwise I'm not sure what they are or if they have any value? Thank you!

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    Those are cool relics I want to know also very interesting.
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    The star/cross looks a lot like what you would see on the shoulderboards of a Swiss general. What do the fasteners look like?
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    The first one is called a "cockade" and is part of a cap badge. I can't say 100% but I think it's German and WW1 era, but they didn't change much other than color of paint. Can you post a pic of the back?

    nhbenz is right about the second one being part of a Swiss rank insignia

    You say these were on rifles?

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    Last edited by NOLA_Ken; Jan 01, 2018 at 03:18 PM.
    "That's me, on the beach side combing the sand, metal meter in my hand, sporting a pocket full of change"...... NOFX

    I collect military relics, mainly German and American, but interested in others as well, pre 1945 .. Always interested in adding to my collection

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhbenz View Post
    The star/cross looks a lot like what you would see on the shoulderboards of a Swiss general. What do the fasteners look like?
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    Of course now I can't seem to locate the star one.. Uggh! Shall keep looking. Both of them have the same fastener setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOLA_Ken View Post
    The first one is called a "cockade" and is part of a cap badge most likely. I can't say 100% but I think it's German and WW1 era, but they didn't change much other than color of paint. Can you post a pic of the back?

    nhbenz is right about the second one being part of a Swiss rank insignia

    You say these were on rifles?

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    Yes sir on rifles. On the shoulder strap.

    Picture of fastener is above - having trouble locating the star one now.. moved recently something always goes missing.

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    A bit of info on the cockade : "The cockade used during WW1 to represent Baden regiment was gold and red.

    The Grand Duchy of Baden (German: Großherzogtum Baden) was a state in the southwest of Germany on the east bank of the Rhine. It existed between 1806 and 1918.

    This cockade was worn on the center of the Feldmütze band below the Reich's cockade. This version was for NCO & Officer ranks use and is one of several versions produced. It is attached to the cap using the two prongs attached."

    What they were doing on rifle slings is anyone's guess... The cockade is probably around a 15$ piece, but definitely a neat find
    "That's me, on the beach side combing the sand, metal meter in my hand, sporting a pocket full of change"...... NOFX

    I collect military relics, mainly German and American, but interested in others as well, pre 1945 .. Always interested in adding to my collection

    some of my antique photo collection : http://forgottonimages.tumblr.com/



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    Quote Originally Posted by NOLA_Ken View Post
    A bit of info on the cockade : "The cockade used during WW1 to represent Baden regiment was gold and red.

    The Grand Duchy of Baden (German: Großherzogtum Baden) was a state in the southwest of Germany on the east bank of the Rhine. It existed between 1806 and 1918.

    This cockade was worn on the center of the Feldmütze band below the Reich's cockade. This version was for NCO & Officer ranks use and is one of several versions produced. It is attached to the cap using the two prongs attached."

    What they were doing on rifle slings is anyone's guess... The cockade is probably around a 15$ piece, but definitely a neat find
    Thank you Ken!

 

 

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