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    Is This Part of a Civil War Scabbard or Sword???

    My brother found this at a Civil War camp and skirmish site. It appears to be copper. It has been suggested that it might be a scabbard throat. What do the experts here think? Thanks!!
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    It would most likely be brass not copper.Ive never seen copper on a sword that was used for combat.

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    could be a scabbard throat, maybe for a knife rather than sword. what does it look like from the top?
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    Maybe to a Bowie knife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by callicles View Post
    My brother found this at a Civil War camp and skirmish site. It appears to be copper. It has been suggested that it might be a scabbard throat. What do the experts here think? Thanks!!
    I suppose you are correct. I had noticed the reddish color to the item and assumed that indicated copper. Thanks for the information!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOLA_Ken View Post
    could be a scabbard throat, maybe for a knife rather than sword. what does it look like from the top?
    Thanks NOLA. Here is a picture of the top view.
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    it looks like it was originally round.... maybe a canteen spout?
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    Definitely probably a canteen spout
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    Wouldn’t it be a bit too big for a canteen? My brother found it so I have only seen the pictures, but it seems to be a couple inches wide. I’m just trying to visualize a spout that big...
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    Thanks for picture! We will consider it a possible canteen spout.

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    I don't think they used copper for a canteen spout. i would think it is too soft.

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    To determine with certainty whether it is made of copper, or brass, make a tiny nick on it, and see whether the color is pink-ish or yellow.

    It seems to lack a "rolled lip"... which both a canteen spout and a scabbard-throat would have.

    Also, in the photo, it LOOKS like the bottom edge is not a straight cut, but instead wavers, like somebody did a crude job of cutting it.

    In the photo, your crushed circular (or oval) tube is about 2.25-inches long. If it was crushed completely flat, it would be a bit longer, about 2-&-3/8th-inches or perhaps 2-&-1/2-inches. If I recall correctly, there is a mathematical formula for determining the original diameter of a circle which has been crushed flat. But I can't remember what that formula is. Knowing its original diameter might help in figuring out what it is.
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