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    Chert tool? Possible artifact

    I found this in a creek in southern Indiana. I feel like it could be something interesting but it could be natural. I think it is chert or Indiana horn stone. This area has this stone in abundance. I find the hole curious.
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    A2coins, Yak1366 and Geochem like this.
    Stay curious

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    definately interesting

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    Curious, indeed.

    The pecking patterns on both tips make me lean towards "modified by man".
    That the stone is shaped like a potential bead makes me lean towards "modified by man".

    Does the hole open up into a natural cavity inside (vug) ?
    Or, is there signs of workmanship as you look inside ?
    Example ... if drilled, the hole should be straight and narrow ... how deep does it go, can you see the bottom ?

    I mean, it's possible that a hollow and porous rock soaked up water and froze in an Indiana winter, blowing out one tip ... But ...

    I'm guessing it is a partially made bead.
    There's enough hints in these pictures that make me tilt a little in the direction that this was worked on by man.
    Do you find other artifacts in the creek/area ?
    I'm beginning to realize I've gone through life without knowing what anything is ...

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    It's not hornstone or any kind of flint. It is far too porous for that. Gary

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToddsPoint View Post
    It's not hornstone or any kind of flint. It is far too porous for that. Gary
    I wondered if it is some kind of lava stone. It is very heavy for it's size. It reminds me of a weight on my grandma's clock. I thought maybe it was for stunning an animal? Hole doesn't go in past maybe the mid part.
    Thanks!
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    I'm not saying that I'm sure it's 100% natural, but I don't see anything that says Native American. Maybe better pictures will help your case.

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    Sex stone.

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    It could be a Native American Charm Stone that has been damaged over time...
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    Hello Sarah,
    The stone shows abundance of natural abrasion, with many surface indents signifying the less hardness minerals more easily abraided.

    The outer rim of the hole section shows some man induced working: the many semi-concoidal chip-like faces composing the outer rim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geochem View Post
    Hello Sarah,
    The stone shows abundance of natural abrasion, with many surface indents signifying the less hardness minerals more easily abraided.

    The outer rim of the hole section shows some man induced working: the many semi-concoidal chip-like faces composing the outer rim.
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    Thank you, Geochem,
    ... someone is seeing the same as I did.
    The outline of the hole seems to have a Pattern.
    (I'm thinking pecks rather than chips.)

    1)one pecks a tiny bowl on the tip
    2)one pecks the bottom of the bowl to start and continue the hole inward.
    3)Op ignores the needed question ... Does the hole break into a hollow rock or does the hole continue in a man-made fashion.
    4)If the hole is indeed man induced ... and it goes half way through ... what would the next procedure be ?

    5)One would then start the same procedure on the opposite tip to meet the first hole halfway.

    What do we see if we examine the opposite tip ?
    I'm seeing the hint of a Pattern.
    Poor picture ... But it appears to have a ring of pecks that form a slight bowl ... followed by a second pattern of pecks at the bottom that begin the second hole.

    That's three patterns, all very suspiciously located in exactly the right place to form a hole through a stone. The first hole already half way through and the second one barely started, BUT, matching the first tip hole ... VERY suspicious of man-made workmanship.

    Nothing conclusive, but requires closer examination.

    Place this in my hand, and I'll have answers for you in a matter of seconds.
    The definitive answer lies in the manner of the hole inside.
    Ask and get ignored ... it's a sad waste of time.
    I'm beginning to realize I've gone through life without knowing what anything is ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug N Play View Post
    ........................
    What do we see if we examine the opposite tip ?
    I'm seeing the hint of a Pattern.
    Poor picture ... But it appears to have a ring of pecks that form a slight bowl ... followed by a second pattern of pecks at the bottom that begin the second hole.


    Place this in my hand, and I'll have answers.
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    I think Plug is correct on the objective of what the stone was being modify to have - a rather proportionally large center bore hole through the long axis of the stone. One end appears to show the almost finished bore chipped/picked out. The opposite side shows small semi-concoildal chips/picks start of making a proportionally large round centered bore hole.

    A very interesting find - a man-altered but unfinished artifact.

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    Cool find, Congrats!!!

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    Thank you every one for your input. It is only in the last couple of years that I have been finding artifacts obviously on accident. I'm really trying for a better picture.
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    Stay curious

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    I may have? There are other rocks I have found there that are suspiciously man made maybe? I just don't know enough to say yes. I do have a confirmed native american trail marker tree on my property. Sorry for the delay I really need to view this sight on any thing other than my cell phone.
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