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    MYSTERY ROCK

    Howdy

    I haven't been around for a while and had to re-register with a different name. Anyway, I'm working on a real mystery and could use some help. If I can remember how to post pictures, please notice the carved images in what locals call "The Mystery Rock." I have been asked by our local Historical Society / Museum to research it, and depending on the results here, might write an article for them in their newsletter. The rock has already been examined by a group of Archaeologist but they are baffled as to what the carvings might be or represent. The only thing they determined with any certainty is that the carvings were done with some type of steel tool such as a chisel. As for the date it was carved, they are baffled about that as well. Its located in a brushy area about 100 feet away from an old State highway and about 100 yards from an old Railroad line that was built in 1916. In the area there is also an old U.S. military encampment that was built in 1940-41 and sold to the County around 1947-48. The two most prominent theories are ...

    1. The rock was carved by a Railroad worker
    2. The rock was carved by a member of the Military

    But regardless of who carved it or when, we are trying to determine what the carvings might be or represent? The archaeologist said they don't recognize the pattern and are pretty sure they are not Aztec or anything like that, and that they might be random that only the "carver" knows the meaning of.

    If you have any theories or recognize the pattern as something specific, please let me know and I will pass the information on to the Historical Society. The rock is located about 50 miles east of San Diego along old Highway 94.

    Thanks in advance to those who participate in possibly solving a mystery that has had locals baffled for several years.

    Sodabob ... a.k.a. Sodabottlebob and Sodapopbob


    The rock is about 6 feet long, 3 feet wide, and about 2 feet thick. Most of the carving are on one end of the rock but in some places continue over the side. The local museum has permits to move it next Spring but will need a backhoe to lift and transport it.

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    Still fine tuning my pic option settings
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    Error / Ignore
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    This is a test to see if I reset my settings properly. My post were a mile wide a minute ago
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    Is there any more like it in the area? And what is the area we are talking about....ie Indians, or Aztecs, Incas?
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    Native Americans are in the surrounding areas and there are no other rocks or designs like it that I am aware of. The Archaeologist already eliminated the designs as being Native American and pretty much refer to them as "Whimsical" that only the original Carver could recognize. Everyone thinks the Carver got the designs from "somewhere" but from where?
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    do i see a profile of a face?
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    Quote Originally Posted by unclemac View Post
    do i see a profile of a face?

    Possibly?

    Personally, I'm thinking along the lines of Northwest Native American Totem Pole designs ...

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    I see no Native American Indian symbols that I know of. The lines are clean and crisp and not much weathering. Makes one wonder??
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    The Native Americans in the area are "Kumeyaay"

    Here's a sampling of their Petroglyphs and Pictographs and a chart showing the typical designs they used. But, like I said, the Archaeologist have already eliminated the designs as being Kumeyaay, but I thought I'd post them anyway. Petroglyphs are carved/scratched images on rock, whereas Pictographs are images painted on rocks.

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    I'm wondering what the negative impression reveals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by old digger View Post
    I'm wondering what the negative impression reveals?

    Good question! But I think it also depends on which direction its viewed from ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sodabob View Post
    The Native Americans in the area are "Kumeyaay"

    Here's a sampling of their Petroglyphs and Pictographs and a chart showing the typical designs they used. But, like I said, the Archaeologist have already eliminated the designs as being Kumeyaay, but I thought I'd post them anyway. Petroglyphs are carved/scratched images on rock, whereas Pictographs are images painted on rocks.

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    That is my tribe Santa Ysabel Kumeyaay
    back of the boat

 

 
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