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    Need some help

    found this recently and not sure what it is,my first thought was a early flag post holder the type that you march with but other than that not sure.looks to be hand forged.Click image for larger version. 

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    That is a neck yoke tip
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    I can't say that I've ever found or even heard of a 'neck yoke tip' before and I've detected hundreds of early farm sites.
    This piece looks 'too clean' to have been in the ground and I can see little to no signs of wear.

    I did a search online for "neck yoke tip" and found nothing that resembles the piece you found pigeonman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ANTIQUARIAN View Post
    I can't say that I've ever found or even heard of a 'neck yoke tip' before and I've detected hundreds of early farm sites.
    This piece looks 'too clean' to have been in the ground and I can see little to no signs of wear.

    I did a search online for "neck yoke tip" and found nothing that resembles the piece you found pigeonman.

    Dave
    Looks old and dug to me... this is "A typical of Bronze"...

    I must say this item is very familiar to me... somehow... but ?.

    I THINK I have seen this before but cannot place it... YET. heh
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    Maybe this will help:
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    Quote Originally Posted by creskol View Post
    Maybe this will help:
    You made me believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creskol View Post
    Maybe this will help:
    I am AMAZED at the knowledge base here on T-Net! CRESKOL!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Soloman View Post
    I am AMAZED at the knowledge base here on T-Net! CRESKOL!!!!!!

    Me, too, Terry! The depth of knowledge on T-Net never ceases to amaze me. I am happy that I can be a tiny part of it.
    Last edited by creskol; Feb 12, 2019 at 12:55 PM.
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    Nice find. Quick ID. I love this forum.
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    I find it hillarious but amazing also
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    Quote Originally Posted by creskol View Post
    Maybe this will help:
    I love the reference book , what's it called?

    It looks like a "Neck Yoke Tip " to me .
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    Gobsmacked!! I swear there is someone here who can identify anything that can be pulled from the dirt.....what an incredible site.
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    Nice find and Great ID!!!
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    Here and in MANY other relic identification requests, reading/viewing the "right" relic refence book is the key to getting the Knowledge you want.

    In this case, it is the 1907 mail-order catalog of horse equipment dealer J.M. Eilers & Co., who dealt in "horse and stable goods, harnesses, saddlery, and carriage trimmings." It contains hundreds of individual drawings of each piece of horse and carriage equipment (like what Creskol posted), from the late-1800s up to its 1907 publication date.

    I think that catalog is where Creskol got the neck-yoke-tip diagram he posted. (If not, I hope will tell us which company's catalog he got it from.) Other useful second-half-of-the-1800s mail order catalogs are from Sears & Roebuck, and (for Military equipment) the Bannermann catalogs. You can buy modern reprints of those catalogs... and some are viewable for free online.

    For example, you can view the hundreds of equipment drawings (with identification) in the 1907 Eilers horse & carriage equipment catalog, page by page, for free online, at the following link. It is a .pdf document, in a format that lets you turn the pages.
    https://archive.org/details/catalogueno200jmei

    Permit me to say:
    Although I suspect many of you won't bother, every coin/relic digger here SHOULD spend at least an hour or two viewing the horse-harness & carriage equipment identification drawings in that 1907 catalog. I guarantee almost everybody will recognize several "mystery items" they've dug.
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    This came from a book I use a lot : "A HISTORICAL GUIDE TO WAGON HARDWARE & BLACKSMITH SUPPLIES" by Towana Spivey. One of my favorites, and used ones are still available on the net.
    “It is best as one grows older to strip oneself of possessions, to shed oneself downward like a tree, to be almost wholly earth before one dies.”

 

 
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