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    17th or 18 century?

    Size is 1.3 inches left to right and 1 inch top to bottom.

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    You think this could be from the 1600's? Unlikely even 18th. Try late 19th.
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    It is cast brass. The Victorian 19th century buckles were mainly stamped brass, as technology had changed. The interior parts of the buckles also are not Victorian.

    I would place this buckle at the end of the 17th century or first quarter of the 18th century. The iron tines are now gone, but the manufacture is early. It's a nice one too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokeythecat View Post
    It is cast brass. The Victorian 19th century buckles were mainly stamped brass, as technology had changed. The interior parts of the buckles also are not Victorian.

    I would place this buckle at the end of the 17th century or first quarter of the 18th century. The iron tines are now gone, but the manufacture is early. It's a nice one too.
    I was thinking the same thing because of the anchor chape
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldieLocks View Post
    You think this could be from the 1600's? Unlikely even 18th. Try late 19th.
    ? ? ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldieLocks View Post
    You think this could be from the 1600's? Unlikely even 18th. Try late 19th.
    I found it in the lip of cellar hole from the 1700’s so I do wonder if it could be from the late 1600’s

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    Nice buckle! Congrats
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomtom401 View Post
    I found it in the lip of cellar hole from the 1700’s so I do wonder if it could be from the late 1600’s
    In the 1600's breeches were buttoned at the knee. About 1730 knee buckles began to come in to fashion. 1750's they were small and square - like yours. By the American revolution they were larger and sometimes oval (square were still worn but larger). By the 1790's, breeches were tied at the knee although buckles held fashion for another decade or so. By 1820 nobody was wearing knee or shoe buckles anymore.

    So, I'd safely call yours 1750's.
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    Shoe buckles stopped using the anchor roll chape and switched to a loop chape in the 1720's as shoe buckles got larger and the anchor/fluke roll could not take the stress. Knee buckles, according to my research, used the anchor chape throughout because they did not have the stress of larger shoe buckles. Knee buckles were fashionable from the 1730's into the very early 1800's.

    Unless my interpretation is incorrect...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AARC View Post
    ? ? ?
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