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    What is this button?

    Looks military to me but Iím not too sure.
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    its US Navy but a pic of the back would be cool
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    fashion button
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    Ben from NH, the Z means nothing

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    Not a fashion button, definitely a pre-WWII Navy officer’s button. Seeing the back, as suggested, would help give a better date range.
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    US Navy, as stated. The back will most likely give away the age.

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ID:	1801291sorry for the delayed response- hereís the back! Any info appreciated!
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    Did you dig that button? How did you come to own it?
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    What is this button?

    This was found metal detecting, so the back is pretty toasty. I could try to clean it up a little bit but Iím not sure how much I want to mess with it
    Last edited by NoThisIsPatrick; Feb 13, 2020 at 04:35 PM.

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    The obverse side eagle is pre WWII US Navy but its hard to imagine a latter 20th century self shank steel back on a vintage US Navy button. It may be some kind of replacement button or not military at all. I dont know. US Military Uniform Buttons Interesting Facts - MISCELLANEOUS / OTHER - U.S. Militaria Forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoThisIsPatrick View Post
    Looks military to me but I’m not too sure.
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    This is what I've found;

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    It's described as an Eagle Navy Anchor Cannon Ball button from the Waterbury Button Co.

    Haven't found anything on the age yet.

    EDIT: Possibly early 1900s but still looking.

    Got it, it's from the 1940's. https://www.etsy.com/listing/7398202...search_click=1
    -DH-
    Last edited by Diggin' History; Feb 13, 2020 at 06:30 PM.
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    Digger Dug is correct, it is a 2nd-half-of-the-20th-century "Fashion" button... but with a twist to its story.

    "Current Regulation" US Military buttons are not to be sold for use on civilian clothing. But in 1941, when the US Navy changed its Regulation button emblem by having the eagle's head turned toward the button's left (after about 90 years of being toward the button's right), the pre-1941 version became officially obsolete, and thus usable for civilian clothing. Button-makers like the Waterbury Button Company did not throw away the expensive stamping dies for the obsolete emblem... they kept using those obsolete dies to make Fashion buttons. The two photos below show NoThisIsPatrick's exact button, with its golden-tinted steel rectangular self-shank back, on a La Mode brand sales card for sale at Jo Ann Fabric Stores, about 20 years ago. (You might need to use the click-to-enlarge function to see the self-shank back's rectangular loop in the backview photo of the sales card.)

    By the way... the similar "obsolete US Navy emblem" Fashion button at Etsy (posted above by Diggin' History) has a simple iron/steel back with a typical wire loop. It was made sometime between 1942 and the mid-1950s, a few years before the rectangular-loop self-shank back became widely manufactured.
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    Last edited by TheCannonballGuy; Feb 13, 2020 at 07:45 PM.
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    Ben from NH, the Z means nothing

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    Indeed, I’m eating my words on that one!
    I should have waited to see the back before sounding so sure.
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    Thanks guys! Still a cool find either way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoThisIsPatrick View Post
    Thanks guys! Still a cool find either way!
    Yes it is!

    I can't believe that I was so involved that I missed the square-loop shank. Glad TheCannonballGuy caught it.

    Cheers.
    -DH-
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    I have a Mongolian Death Worm for a pet.

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    I didnt even see digger_dugs post until now. Great ID and great explanation CBG

    What did you see that pointed toward a fashion button digger_dug? Just curious.
    Last edited by Bigcypresshunter; Feb 13, 2020 at 10:47 PM.

 

 
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