Perth amboy .833 D bullion???? Is it silver, lead, alloy, or white gold...????
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Thread: Perth amboy .833 D bullion???? Is it silver, lead, alloy, or white gold...????

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    Perth amboy .833 D bullion???? Is it silver, lead, alloy, or white gold...????

    I came across this while looking through some rocks by water way close to my house in Northern California and I'm not sure what it is. I've taken it to a coin shop they try to tell me it was lead I've done as much research as I can online and cannot find any article or reference to let ever being marked with .83 3 the only things I have found are bullying but I'm not quite sure what I'm looking at whether it's a long-lost relic or just a fake can somebody possibly point me in the right direction if not give me some insight on how to possibly sell such aemmense piece of art and history. It weighs an incredible 58.8 lbs
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    Spitballing here but I'd venture lead billet smelted Aug 1933 in Perth Amboy
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    An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

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    The American Smelting And Refinery Co. of Perth Amboy, New Jersey was in the business of refining lead and other metals.
    The company may still be active today.
    Don........
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    An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

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    .833 is 5/6th; perhaps something to do with the purity of the bar.
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    Don got it. American Smelting also made babbit in different grades for bearings.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mackaydon View Post
    The American Smelting And Refinery Co. of Perth Amboy, New Jersey was in the business of refining lead and other metals.
    The company may still be active today.
    Don........
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    Looks like a " stick of solder" that is used to solder/braze metals together. If so, it would have a lot of lead in it. I still have some around here from my early career as a sheet metal mechanic.
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    I understand what it could be but as I said I've been doing quite a bit of research on late 1800 early 1900 pig and billits. As far as I can find there's nothing that I found to be stamped with 833 that would be a 60lbs block and if so why would it be stamped with the company name. Most lead pigs, billits, or solder blocks would be pretty basic when it comes to makers marks. I'm not trying to reach here I'm just going on what I have been able to find online. As for the perth Amboy mint there were a lead producer as well as silver and gold dore and smelter for the miners who couldn't refine on there own. I live in mt. Shasta and this is where the northern end of the gold rush was. That's the main reason I'd even be considering it might be of any value. Also I have a lead bar and there are no identifying marks on it

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    Just use an acid test or calculate the density through water displacement.

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    I don't know what kind of metal you have there but I wouldn't read too much into the company name being on the bar. It's not "stamped with the company name". The mold it was created in had the company name (in reverse) cast into the mold. Anything molten poured into the mold and allowed to cool would have the company name on it.

    As for the "833" and the "D" I don't know. I suppose it could be a dore bar, but I'm still leaning towards lead based on the pics.

    To get a definitive answer to your question regarding the type of metal you have, please refer to the post above mine.
    Last edited by Doubter in MD; Jul 01, 2020 at 09:23 AM.

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    What are the dimensions of the bar?
    How soft is the metal? Can you easily cut it with a knife?
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    There appears to be the number "5" below the R and the T in the Perth Amboy picture on the side of the bar. Are there any other markings on it?

 

 

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