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    Early-mid 1800s homesite finds

    My main question is about the lead doohickey, it feels about the size of buckshot or a small musket ball but it is very mangled and not patinated. Is this just a ball in real rough shape or is it something else?
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    Shown next to a lincoln for scale. Thanks!
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    I'm gathering some stats on the ratios of big coppers to silvers at pre-1850 sites, please help me out and check out this post!
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/ge...800s-site.html

    2020 Totals
    Metal Detecting
    • Coppers: 1820 LC, 1837 Hard Times token, 1856 LC, 3 Matron Head LC's, (half of a) Victoria Penny, 1868, 1908 IHP
    • Silvers: 1942 Washington
    • Flat buttons: 24
    • Military buttons: 2
    • Indian artifacts, points, etc: 2

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    That ball is in rough shape. It's the right size for a "buck and ball" load. This was common type load for hunting with a muzzle loading gun.

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    You say there is NO patina? I suppose it could be fairly modern. One of the gun guys will have to speak to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCMatt View Post
    That ball is in rough shape. It's the right size for a "buck and ball" load. This was common type load for hunting with a muzzle loading gun.

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    You say there is NO patina? I suppose it could be fairly modern. One of the gun guys will have to speak to that.
    There's a little, but mostly in the low parts. I suppose on the high edges and things my cleaning could have worn it off, usually the ones I find are very white like in your picture. I'm just super confused why it would be this mangled though.
    Last edited by Noah_D; Jul 31, 2020 at 04:42 PM.
    I'm gathering some stats on the ratios of big coppers to silvers at pre-1850 sites, please help me out and check out this post!
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/ge...800s-site.html

    2020 Totals
    Metal Detecting
    • Coppers: 1820 LC, 1837 Hard Times token, 1856 LC, 3 Matron Head LC's, (half of a) Victoria Penny, 1868, 1908 IHP
    • Silvers: 1942 Washington
    • Flat buttons: 24
    • Military buttons: 2
    • Indian artifacts, points, etc: 2

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    us
    Oct 2006
    Herndon Virginia
    Minelab Equinox 600, EX II, & Musketeer, White's Classic
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    The musket balls in this picture are larger than yours, but you can see the first one is significantly misshapen due to being chewed.

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    I don't suppose you're hunting anywhere near any Pequot War battlefields...
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    "It's a long time between drinks."
    Attributed to John Motley Morehead
    Governor - North Carolina - 1843

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    Dec 2017
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCMatt View Post
    The musket balls in this picture are larger than yours, but you can see the first one is significantly misshapen due to being chewed.

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    I don't suppose you're hunting anywhere near any Pequot War battlefields...
    I wish! So it may have been chewed? Interesting, normally I would try and get a caliber off of it but I'm not even going to try. Thanks.
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    I'm gathering some stats on the ratios of big coppers to silvers at pre-1850 sites, please help me out and check out this post!
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/ge...800s-site.html

    2020 Totals
    Metal Detecting
    • Coppers: 1820 LC, 1837 Hard Times token, 1856 LC, 3 Matron Head LC's, (half of a) Victoria Penny, 1868, 1908 IHP
    • Silvers: 1942 Washington
    • Flat buttons: 24
    • Military buttons: 2
    • Indian artifacts, points, etc: 2

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    us
    Oct 2006
    Herndon Virginia
    Minelab Equinox 600, EX II, & Musketeer, White's Classic
    9,097
    10027 times
    Metal Detecting
    Quote Originally Posted by Noah_D View Post
    I wish! So it may have been chewed? Interesting, normally I would try and get a caliber off of it but I'm not even going to try. Thanks.
    There is no question that men put musket balls in their mouths for various reasons, but there is a great debate on just how much damage human teeth can do to a lead ball.

    And just to forestall any question about a patient having to "bite the bullet" during surgery back in the day - that didn't happen.
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    "It's a long time between drinks."
    Attributed to John Motley Morehead
    Governor - North Carolina - 1843

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    Oct 2019
    MA
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    I don’t think patina is a good measure of age because different soil conditions can yield vastly different patinas. I once found a drop of three musket balls. Two of them were powdery white, and one of them was a far less oxidized, light gray. And these were less than a foot away from each other.

    It’s probably a musket ball, just pretty beat up. As other posters have said, maybe even chewed. Some bullets are also chewed by animals.
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