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    Help Date!!

    Hello all. New here to this community. A little background- we live in SouthEastern Pennsylvania near an old tourist railroad that ran through the late 1800s. Weve found a lot of old metal pieces in the woods on our property (Ill post a separate thread for this eventually) and found this yesterday with a metal detector. Can anyone help date this button? Thanks!! Click image for larger version. 

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    Welcome aboard! Really nice button. Please post the diameter and what it says on the back side.

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    It’s just under 1 inch diameter, and I says “Horstmann Philadelphia” on the back.

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    Unless Creskol, whose opinion I highly regard, knows something I don't I think your "Horstmann/Philadelphia" backmarked button could date back to 1893. That is according to the book "Dating Buttons" by Warren K. Tice. And, Albert's button book dates that backmark from 1893-1935.
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    https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...-war-475947139.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackaydon View Post
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    That button backtrack isn't the same .. It is older than c-hauk's is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fyrffytr1 View Post
    Unless Creskol, whose opinion I highly regard, knows something I don't I think your "Horstmann/Philadelphia" backmarked button could date back to 1893. That is according to the book "Dating Buttons" by Warren K. Tice. And, Albert's button book dates that backmark from 1893-1935.
    I could be wrong, but hauk's button looks like it has a totally flat back.
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    It does have a flat back

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    Old, cooler of course, newer maybe, still a neat find! Nice going.

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    I somehow overlooked the Horstmann backmark in Tice's book that looks like yours. It dates the button from 1893-1947
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    The "Horstmann Bros. & Co. (dot) Phil. (dot)" backmark dating at Worthpoint for the button shown there is very incorrect. (snort) It is absolutely definitely a post-civil-war Horstmann backmark. The 1859-70 version had the name "Brothers" fully spelled out, not abbreviated.

    Fyrffytr1, for whatever it's worth to know, the McGuinn-&-Bazelon book on backmark-dating and the Tice backmark book are in agreement about C-Hauk's Horstmann backmark... as you said, 1893-1947.
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    Thank you all for your feedback!
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