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    Quote Originally Posted by xaos View Post
    What I suspect, is you are looking at a container used to ship mercury.
    "Doutsch" refers to Germany in a German dialect used in Luxembourg...

    Historically, Luxembourg was an elemental mercury producer...

    Now the 1811 and 76 pounds makes sense!

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    Maybe it is a mercury container, but this still doesn’t make complete sense.

    The two rupees coin you’re showing was issued by the German East Africa Company (Deutsch-Ostafrikanische Gesellschaft) and has the arms they used, as I already showed in post #11. However it’s not the same emblem as on the presumed container.

    Certainly they were involved in mining in East Africa (for which mercury might well have been a necessary commodity), but the company didn’t exist prior to 1884. Their inability to maintain control of the African territories for which they had been granted a charter led to full colonisation for German East Africa under direct control of the German Government from about 1891, but there was no concept of a colonial 'Deutsch Ostafrika' before 1885.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red-Coat View Post
    Maybe it is a mercury container, but this still doesn’t make complete sense.

    The two rupees coin you’re showing was issued by the German East Africa Company (Deutsch-Ostafrikanische Gesellschaft) and has the arms they used, as I already showed in post #11. However it’s not the same emblem as on the presumed container.

    Certainly they were involved in mining in East Africa (for which mercury might well have been a necessary commodity), but the company didn’t exist prior to 1890. Their inability to maintain control of the African territories for which they had been granted a charter led to full colonisation for German East Africa under direct control of the German Government from about 1891, but there was no concept of a colonial 'Deutsch Ostafrika' before 1885.
    Could it have a Dutch connection? I know the Nederlands was in Africa as far back as the 1600s, and Deutsch and Dutch have been used interchangeably by people for years.
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    Flask is a British unit of mass or weight in the avoirdupois system, used to measure mercury. It is defined as 76 pounds (34 kg).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ffuries View Post
    Could it have a Dutch connection? I know the Nederlands was in Africa as far back as the 1600s, and Deutsch and Dutch have been used interchangeably by people for years.
    The Dutch weren't really in East Africa, apart from the island of Mauritius (east of Madagascar, off Africa's southeast coast), which was an an official settlement of the Dutch East India Company between 1638 and 1710.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pepperj View Post
    Flask is a British unit of mass or weight in the avoirdupois system, used to measure mercury. It is defined as 76 pounds (34 kg).
    That makes complete sense... and the 'flask' became the standard unit for commodity trade in mercury across many countries.

    What still isn't clear is whose flask was it, what is the emblem, and how does a date of 1811 work for German East Africa, when there was no German colonial activity before 1884/5... unless it's not a date at all but some kind of serial number?

    Date-wise, German East Africa ceased to exist when Germany lost WWI in 1918 and was dissolved the following year.
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    Could the image simply be the logo of the manufacturer?
    My apologies if this has previously been offered and discussed.
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    What still isn't clear is whose flask was it, what is the emblem, and how does a date of 1811 work for German East Africa, when here was no German colonial activity before 1885... unless it's not a date at all but some kind of serial number?
    I suspect that the logo is simply a knock off of the symbol...

    1811 is not the year (hint...its Mercury)
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    Quote Originally Posted by xaos View Post
    1811 is not the year (hint...its Mercury)
    Ha Ha... the hint doesn't help! What's the connection between mercury and the number 1811?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red-Coat View Post
    Ha Ha... the hint doesn't help! What's the connection between mercury and the number 1811?
    Ditto since the Atomic Number for Mercury is 80.......So I don't get the 1811 connection to Mercury, so I must be stupid!
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    Do a search on 'red mercury German duss'.

    It's supposedly some sort of antique German stove with magical powers (think... SCAM).

    There are loads of them on the internet once you know how to search for them. Many in Africa have been duped by these con-men. Don't be that guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCMatt View Post
    Do a search on 'red mercury German duss'.

    It's supposedly some sort of antique German stove with magical powers (think... SCAM).

    There are loads of them on the internet once you know how to search for them. Many in Africa have been duped by these con-men. Don't be that guy.
    Interesting reading on the scam......Here's a similar design on another one.

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