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    DOUTSCH OSTAFRIKA

    We used to to study in History,

    1811 Antique

    But whats so special in it?This precious thing belongs to a Grand Woman but nothing can be explained.

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    Please advise whats good about it.

    rgds

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    Hi, if possible post some more pictures with a size reference. Also, where is the artifact found? What did you study in history - the artifact, Grand Woman, or both? Post what you learned. The more details you can provide the better chance someone will be able to explain what is special about it...

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    Better Pics please with a size reference

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    I find the fact that Deutsch OstAfrika is spelt Doutsch OstAfrika to be interesting. Yet I haven't been able to find any references with it spelt that way in a Google search.
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    Every artifact has a story, if we're willing to listen

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    ffuries, I saw that too. Trying different languages in Google translator, "Doutsch" is the Arabic and Hindu spelling for German.
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    Quote Originally Posted by invent4hir View Post
    ffuries, I saw that too. Trying different languages in Google translator, "Doutsch" is the Arabic and Hindu spelling for German.
    Aha, tried looking for the palm tree with flanking lions as a coat of arms, family shield, logo etc and came up blank thus far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ffuries View Post
    Aha, tried looking for the palm tree with flanking lions as a coat of arms, family shield, logo etc and came up blank thus far.
    Same here, guess great minds think alike! Anyways, Dar es Salaam is in Tanzania, which was part of Deutsch OstAfrika. However, that colony existed from 1885 to 1918 - so not sure what the 1811 or other characters refer to. Hoping the OP posts some more info - as determining what purpose the artifact was/is used for may help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by invent4hir View Post
    Same here, guess great minds think alike! Anyways, Dar es Salaam is in Tanzania, which was part of Deutsch OstAfrika. However, that colony existed from 1885 to 1918 - so not sure what the 1811 or other characters refer to. Hoping the OP posts some more info - as determining what purpose the artifact was/is used for may help.

    Yeap a search of....

    Doustsh Ostafrika
    Star 1811 star - 0620 - J
    LBS diamond 76

    .....Didn't lead to any leads either!
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    Just for yuks,I tried too,no dice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crashbandicoot View Post
    Just for yuks,I tried too,no dice.
    LOL......What's our next ideal on searching.......

    I'm trying to decide if it's some sort of cup/container or pestle (From a mortar and pestle set).
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    What is it made of? It’s difficult to tell if it’s metal or pottery. Is it a vessel (container)?

    An emblem with similar imagery appears on this flag, however it’s a fantasy flag:

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    It was created by someone on the ‘Deviantart’ website as what the flag of the (non-existent) Protectorate of the German Central Africa (Flagge des Schutzgebietes Deutsch-Mittelafrika) might have been in an alternate history scenario for WWI, if Germany had seized more colonies in Africa than was the case and hadn't lost the war.

    The creator (a poster named ‘LinumDeactivated’) said that it was “inspired by other German colonial flags and coats of arms”, so he may have found the emblem somewhere in relation to an African state. However, when I did a Google image search for the emblem, nothing came up… but Google offered: “Possible related search: fictional character”.

    The term ‘Doutsche Ostrafrika’ could refer to the German East Africa Company (Deutsch-Ostafrikanische Gesellschaft) or the actual colony of German East Africa (Deutsch-Ostafrika) but the company wasn’t formed until 1884. The colony followed on from that when the company has to call in the military to suppress a revolt in what is now Tanzania and then progressively handed full control to the German government from 1891 onwards. If the ‘1811’ on the item posted is actually a date (rather than some kind of serial number) it can’t relate to either the company or the colony.

    The company flag featured a stylised representation of the constellation of the Southern Cross, but they also used the arms of a single lion under a palm tree:

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    Neither the colony flag nor its arms featured palm tree/lion emblems but it’s possible there may have been unofficial emblems in use since the actual arms (with an eagle) weren’t officially granted to the colony until 1914.
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    My next idea is put this thread on the back burner until better pics and/or some more details are given. Lots of other threads to ponder...
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    There was also a German shipping line (Deutsche Ost-Afrika Linie) but it wasn't establshed until 1890, and didn't use any emblem including lions and a palm tree.

    Both Gambia and Sierra Leone have used elements of that imagery as emblems, but not the two lions supporting a palm tree as depicted on the mystery item.
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    What I suspect, is you are looking at a container used to ship mercury.
    "Doutsch" refers to Germany in a German dialect used in Luxembourg...

    Historically, Luxembourg was an elemental mercury producer...

    Now the 1811 and 76 pounds makes sense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xaos View Post
    What I suspect, is you are looking at a container used to ship mercury.
    "Doutsch" refers to Germany in a German dialect used in Luxembourg...

    Historically, Luxembourg was an elemental mercury producer...

    Now the 1811 and 76 pounds makes sense!

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    Mercury was used in mining wasn't it?
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