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    Small brass figurine pin from 1800?s site

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    Found today at cellar hole with occupancy from 1850-1950. I think it is meant to be worn as a pin, actual iron pin gone. Anyone have an ID or date range for this?

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    I have no idea,but I do like things like that,that,s a good find.

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    Nice find! Reminds me of the old cartoon depictions of crooked politicians. It might be related to something similar. Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rmeav8r View Post
    Nice find! Reminds me of the old cartoon depictions of crooked politicians. It might be related to something similar. Just a thought.
    You might be on to something there.
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    Pin... IMO.
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    Neat find! Congrats!! No idea though!

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    Fascinating artifact. Not sure on the ID but comparing the 3rd and 4th photos, the pair of holes in the third make me wonder if it was strapped to something at 1 time. Do those holes look homemade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by invent4hir View Post
    Fascinating artifact. Not sure on the ID but comparing the 3rd and 4th photos, the pair of holes in the third make me wonder if it was strapped to something at 1 time. Do those holes look homemade?
    The holes in the back appear to be cuts in the brass to fold and create the pin pivot point and catch
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    Seems to be sort of crude in an artistic sense, like for a kid, home made, or a cheap advertising gimmick. I've poured over a ton of brass brooches, pins, etc from the 1800s and 1900s on Google and can't find anything that crude in construction.

    Then again Google doesn't have a picture of everything out there.......

    I tried Political Satire, Niagara Falls Rider, Mammy and Mammy Doll, etc, with no luck.
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    For some reason it reminds me of a Black Americana piece, some of which were very crude. The apron she is wearing is very similar to the aprons always depicted on Black American pieces.
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    Kind of a Raggedy Ann vibe too but that would not be until after 1915. I do like Mud Huts take on it.

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    Maybe a WWI era Fumsup - good luck charm similar to a kewpie doll. I didn't find an exact match but there were several styles.

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    Thx All for your ideas. The arms and legs of the piece I found have a rope weave pattern. I found this Bellhop pin with rope arms and legs. Not a match, but maybe a clue.
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    In the history of design, there are lots of examples where a "product" is made with a new material, but is made to imitate the original material. Think of the metal side panels on a 1970's station wagon that were made to look like the wood that would have been used originally.

    This object reminds me of old corn husk dolls. Some of them probably had braided arms and legs and the vertical ridges are like those on a corn husk. Not that this is a doll, but maybe a pin or ornament intended to look like a corn husk doll.

    IDK. I've never seen anything really like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCMatt View Post
    Maybe a WWI era Fumsup - good luck charm similar to a kewpie doll. I didn't find an exact match but there were several styles.
    I did a little more reading on 'Fumsup'. It seems they've been around since the 1880's and became quite popular during WWI. However the WWI versions typically had a head and/or part of the body made of wood (like the pic I posted). Those are sometimes called 'Touch wud' charms - like "Knock on wood" in the US and "Touch wood" in the UK - for luck or protection.

    If this one is a Fumsup, it is earlier than WWI.

 

 
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