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  1. #1
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    Dec 2004
    east northport ny
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    button help pics added

    Hello

    I was out the other day and found some buttons. 2 of the three had markings. the first says L,H & Scovill Treble Gilt on the back. which has most of its gilt still on. the other button looks like it was a cuff link button. it has the image of a fox running with what it looks like the word tally o over it. It was found at an early 1800's site curious to see if any one could tell me anything about the button. pics will be up shortly

    thanks and hh to all

    dylan

  2. #2
    us
    Dec 2004
    Long Island New York
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    Re: Found an interesting button

    I only got one pic Dylan if theres more let me know.

    kenb
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  3. #3
    us
    Dec 2004
    east northport ny
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    Re: Found an interesting button pics added

    just the 1 ken thanks

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    Re: button help pics added

    Your one piece gilted button is probebly a LEVENWORTH, HAYDEN & SCOVILL product from the early 1800s (pre 1830s). This is a WAG based on other sources. Why the name Scolvil has only one "L" is a good question. The term "Treble Gilt" is there to indicate a better quality of button than an average product... it's called a "quality mark".

    I letcha know if I get a tally-ho on the fox thinggy...

  5. #5
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    Re: button help pics added

    Great info Jim, looks like Dylans onto a good site!

    kenb

  6. #6
    us
    Dec 2004
    east northport ny
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    Re: button help pics added

    thanks jim for the info the fox button is my favorite button find so far nick i think you should be the official tnet chef

    dylan

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    Re: button help pics added

    Quote Originally Posted by dgaughan
    thanks jim for the info the fox button is my favorite button find so far nick i think you should be the official tnet chef

    dylan
    I dunno about the "treble" meaning "three...

    Is the fox button oval?

  8. #8
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    Dec 2004
    east northport ny
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    Re: button help pics added

    jim the button is oval metal finder thanks for the info the site is from around 1800 i was thinking cufflink also

    Dylan

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    Re: button help pics added

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Pappagiorgio
    Quote Originally Posted by Montana Jim
    Quote Originally Posted by dgaughan
    thanks jim for the info     the fox button is my favorite button find so far    nick  i think you should be the official tnet chef

    dylan
    I dunno about the "treble" meaning "three...

    Is the fox button oval?
    Treble fish hook...3 hooks...Just a thought...3 is triple - triple gilt...Just a thought

    Nick

    In the law world, "Treble Damages" are three times as many damages.  You're correct about the "Treble Hook."  "Treble Gilt" meant "Three Times As Much" Gilding, or peraps "Gilded Three Times," or "Triple Gilded"--so the button wouldn't get scratched or worn down to the base metal as easily.  Now whether they really were or not is open to speculation.  Mainly just an advertising ploy--but the Scovil(l) buttons my buddies and I have found usually have most of their gilding left--so they were well made, even if they didn't say "Treble Gilt" on them.  On the other hand, buttons with only the quality mark "Treble Gilt" or "Superior Gilt" with no company backmark are frequently recovered with no gilding remaining.  So evidently Scovill knew what they were doing in terms of the gilding process.  Could be part of the reason they dominated the industry for so long...


    Wishing you Trebly Productive Hunting,


    Buckleboy
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  10. #10
    us
    Dec 2004
    east northport ny
    1,618

    Re: button help pics added

    and to you as well buckleboy

    dylan

 

 

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