Old KKK membership coins

[Flintfinder]

I was going through some old stuff and came upon these. I am not sure where I got them. Does any one know anything about them, like are these common. They are a part of our history, are they of any value? I am not trying to get anyone upset, just seeking info. thanks. John

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[jeff of pa]

Your Top one looks close to this one dated 1928

21. KK-226 Obverse: Features Night Rider with fiery cross, Realm of Illinois, Knights of Ku Klux Klan. Reverse: Features Lady Liberty, Illinois 1928, I was there (commemorates National Klonklave). Approx. half dollar size. Copper. $250.00

http://www.kkklan.com/coins.htm

[jeff of pa]

the W. VA May be a fantasy Membership Token also

Am Guessing by this

http://www.exonumia.com/fakes.htm

Mentions one from alabama & One from GA
among others

[Flintfinder]

Thanks for the link Jeff. The first kkk coin that I showed has a date of 1919, and says realm of USA instead of Ill. do you have any other links I can check out? Thanks for your help. John

[Flintfinder]

Jeff I'm not real familar with fantasy , Can you guys explain that to me? Thanks John

[jeff of pa]

Made to Celebrate the time in History.

They still have Collector Value
Just not as High as the real thing.

Here is an Example
listed currently at $100 (Old Auction)
http://www.exonumia.com/fakes/fant05a.htm

[jeff of pa]

Here is a better Discription from the link above

A fake is a counterfeit, generally a cast copy of a genuine original. Some deceptive fakes of original Slave Tags have been made with new dies. It is against Federal law to make fakes or counterfeits of original items. A number of coins, tokens and medals have been faked. Some expensive coins have been faked by creating copy-dies.

A fantasy is a piece that never existed years ago and implies it is old. Most fantasy pieces sound too good to be true, and generally are! I have also listed some suspect pieces that I highly doubt are original items, but I must see to be able to determine (they are listed as doubtful). Fantasy pieces can be struck, cast or engraved. A number of fantasy pieces have been created by crooks creating a new piece from legitimate manufacturers, with good quality die work and design. Just because it looks good does not mean it is, and just because it looks shoddy it does not mean it isn't genuine!

[Flintfinder]

Thanks a lot Jeff. I still cant find the mebership coins I have on the web. They may be fake for all I know, Like i said cant remember where I got em. If any one else knows anthing about them, please let me know. thanks JOHN

[Siegfried Schlagrule]

Jeff I'm not real familar with fantasy , Can you guys explain that to me? Thanks John

A fantasy can not be a fake because there is no original. A fake is a deceptive copy of an original but made later to defraud collectors. A fake coin is called a counterfeit. siegfried schlagrule

[Flintfinder]

Thanks JustGeese, I looked and looked and couldn't come up with anything. I am an arrowhead hunter, and collect er. I know nothing about coins ,tokens etc. To me this is just history, and that's it. I didn't collect them, but they were probably in a box of stuff bought at auction. So No hard feelings. I just kinda wanted to know what they were worth before I got rid of them. John

[X-Terra70_TreasureHunter]

Hi the Top Token is valued at $250.00


21. KK-226 Obverse: Features Night Rider with fiery cross, Realm of Illinois, Knights of Ku Klux Klan. Reverse: Features Lady Liberty, Illinois 1928, I was there (commemorates National Klonklave). Approx. half dollar size. Copper.

Contact this person: alnewman6@hotmail.com

LINK: (Middle of the Pg.)

http://www.kkklan.com/coins.htm

Link #2 for other items
http://www.cdgale.com/kidd/

There are many REALM's of the KKK, the Realm is the State Level which is broken down from the Empire level of the U.S.A.

[Flintfinder]

The first one says Member in good standing 1919 ( realm of USA) The secound one appears to be stamped over another coin(penny Dated 1937) The secound one on the face has stamped #4 KKK W.VA and has crosses stamped around the KKK. Thanks for the link to the auction, I did see the third one in that link, but its just an auction link and really didnt give me any info. Thanks for your input, and I really thank you guys for the help. John