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  1. #1

    Feb 2008
    Houston Texas
    136

    Calling on the button experts!

    I found this button over the weekend with a few other TNET buddies in Louisiana.

    I can't seem to find it in Albert's button book, but the site has turned up confederate cavalry items.

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  2. #2
    us
    Dec 2004
    South Florida
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    Re: Calling on the button experts!

    Can we see the back?
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

  3. #3

    Feb 2008
    Houston Texas
    136

    Re: Calling on the button experts!

    I can't make out the backmark as of yet. It is two piece and is definitely marked. I will post a pic as soon as I can make out something...

    Alan

  4. #4

    Apr 2008
    82

    Re: Calling on the button experts!

    May be a Louisiana State Militia Button.... as you have found they used the Pelican as their design, which carried over into the Civil War.

  5. #5
    us
    Dec 2007
    Chattanooga, TN
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    497
    Metal Detecting

    Re: Calling on the button experts!

    That may be a livery stable button. Some of those go back past the civil war. From the style of eagle on the front, I would date it to at least 1850s. But I am guessing.

  6. #6
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    Re: Calling on the button experts!

    Quote Originally Posted by ghost_rider
    May be a Louisiana State Militia Button.... as you have found they used the Pelican as their design, which carried over into the Civil War.
    It sure has that feel, but it's the wrong bird completely...

    Quote Originally Posted by duggap
    That may be a livery stable button. Some of those go back past the civil war. From the style of eagle on the front, I would date it to at least 1850s. But I am guessing.
    Been looking, can't find any matching livery buttons that even come close... maybe though.

    The closest I can get is a US Navy button or US Army Infantry button (1790s - 1820s), but yours is sans stars and shields and such... although the eagle is pretty darn close. I did find a diplomatic button from 1790s - 1820s that closely resembles it - but again, not exact. I even found some confederate staff officers whose come close... but again... no way close enough.

  7. #7
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    Re: Calling on the button experts!

    Quote Originally Posted by duggap
    That may be a livery stable button. Some of those go back past the civil war. From the style of eagle on the front, I would date it to at least 1850s. But I am guessing.
    The style of eagle is 1820's or earlier. Look at the military buttons from the same time period.


    I don't think this is a livery button.


    But now the ball is in the original poster's court with a backmark. That might help us the most...



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  8. #8
    us
    Feb 2008
    NE Louisiana
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    Re: Calling on the button experts!

    Look at the 10th one down it is similar i think.
    Local Staff variant
    http://www.civilwarbuttons.com/cscentrlist.htm

    La Beep (Ward)
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  9. #9
    us
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    Re: Calling on the button experts!

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  10. #10
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    Re: Calling on the button experts!

    Quote Originally Posted by La Beep
    Look at the 10th one down it is similar i think.
    Local Staff variant
    http://www.civilwarbuttons.com/cscentrlist.htm

    La Beep (Ward)
    I thought this was a one-piece button. Is it a two piece??!?
    Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    TEN Half Reales:
    1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
    1836 8 Reales
    A 17?? One Real
    1819 Token/Jeton
    Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
    Henry Clay Campaign Button, 1820s or 1830s
    FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
    1838-O Dime (no stars), Two 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
    1892 Barber Dime
    1918 Walking Liberty Half
    1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
    Military Relics:
    Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
    FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
    1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
    CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
    CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
    3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  11. #11
    us
    Dec 2007
    Chattanooga, TN
    Tosoro Bandido
    497
    Metal Detecting

    Re: Calling on the button experts!

    The reason I was thinking Livery button was because of three we found on a confederate site. Two were silver plated and one was gold plated but otherwise identical to each other. We exhausted all the books so we emailed Dan Binder and he was the one who id'ed it as livery. This button is very close to those buttons.

  12. #12
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    Sep 2006
    Montana
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    Re: Calling on the button experts!

    Quote Originally Posted by duggap
    The reason I was thinking Livery button was because of three we found on a confederate site. Two were silver plated and one was gold plated but otherwise identical to each other. We exhausted all the books so we emailed Dan Binder and he was the one who id'ed it as livery. This button is very close to those buttons.
    Got pics of them?

  13. #13
    us
    Dec 2007
    Chattanooga, TN
    Tosoro Bandido
    497
    Metal Detecting

    Re: Calling on the button experts!

    Quote Originally Posted by Montana Jim
    Quote Originally Posted by duggap
    The reason I was thinking Livery button was because of three we found on a confederate site. Two were silver plated and one was gold plated but otherwise identical to each other. We exhausted all the books so we emailed Dan Binder and he was the one who id'ed it as livery. This button is very close to those buttons.
    Got pics of them?
    Jim I don't have pics as one fellow dug all three. I will try and get him to post them for you. I also think they may have, or are going to be, in American Digger Magazine. Charlie Harris from American Digger is in one of our relic clubs and he also has pics. He was the one who contacted Binder.

 

 

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