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Jun 22, 2008, 05:40 PM
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Copper found at 17th Century Homestead
I found this copper at a site where at least 8 other Large Cents have been found. It's my first LC of any kind so I'd love to get an ID on it. I know it's almost impossible to identify with no markings at all but maybe someone can venture a guess. I've cleaned it since these pictures were take and it is completely smooth on each side. There is no detail remaining but it measures exactly 27mm. I have no way of weighing the coin at this point. If that would help with the ID, let me know. Thanks in advance.
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Jun 22, 2008, 07:00 PM
#2
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Re: Copper found at 17th Century Homestead
Might want to throw in how light weight and thin it is. I thought that was unusual
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Jun 22, 2008, 08:29 PM
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Re: Copper found at 17th Century Homestead
 Originally Posted by cam9457
Might want to throw in how light weight and thin it is. I thought that was unusual
Yes... It's thinner than any coin I've held in my hand.
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Jun 22, 2008, 08:34 PM
#4
Re: Copper found at 17th Century Homestead
Congrats on the copper Aaron! I guess you guys were at the same house. Centralia was cool but the weeds were to dang high.
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Jun 22, 2008, 08:41 PM
#5
Re: Copper found at 17th Century Homestead
Congrats on the copper Aaron!!! Yours is alot like the one I found.
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Jun 23, 2008, 07:21 AM
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Re: Copper found at 17th Century Homestead
 Originally Posted by baspinall
Congrats on the copper Aaron! I guess you guys were at the same house. Centralia was cool but the weeds were to dang high.
Was the coin found in Centralia on Sunday? I was going to go but was unable to.
I go there for fossils (not the last old residents living there)
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Jun 23, 2008, 07:59 AM
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Re: Copper found at 17th Century Homestead
 Originally Posted by CoolFrayers
 Originally Posted by baspinall
Congrats on the copper Aaron! I guess you guys were at the same house. Centralia was cool but the weeds were to dang high.
Was the coin found in Centralia on Sunday? I was going to go but was unable to.
I go there for fossils (not the last old residents living there)
No... It was found at a home in Ambler PA
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Jun 23, 2008, 02:38 PM
#8
Re: Copper found at 17th Century Homestead
There must be liitle tiny bits of detail left on that disc. Doesn't appear to be in that bad of shape. Have you looked at it under magnification?. If you put h2o on it sometimes you can see more detail when it is wet. Or put a piece of paper over it and go over it with a pencil,(like you would a headstone in a cemetery), sometimes you will bring out detail that way. GOOD LUCK Hogge
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Jun 23, 2008, 05:12 PM
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Re: Copper found at 17th Century Homestead
TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!
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Jun 23, 2008, 05:38 PM
#10
Re: Copper found at 17th Century Homestead
I am not sure that is completely blank, since some evidence of rim being left is there, a good possibility if you get rid of the rest of the crud on it that even one letter or a feature might allow you to ID it. Being that it is thin, the most logical is a counterfeit copper of some sort and the most common one would be a KGIII, so look for any of the details that are on a KGIII Halfpenny. A lot are undersized and all underweight unless made of other than copper.
If tracings, wetting the coin, and looking at different angles with lighting and magnification, than it is time to try a brass wire brush, but go slowly. I assume you already tried removing most of the crud, if not another soak in hot peroxide first and q-tip the gunk off..............
Nothing to lose and wanting to know what that worn out copper is, can give you the satisfaction you are looking for. Leaving it as it is, just leaves a ? as to what is it............
Don
"The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
The value will increase with judicious cleaning."
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Jun 26, 2008, 07:26 PM
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Re: Copper found at 17th Century Homestead
 Originally Posted by Don in SJ
I am not sure that is completely blank, since some evidence of rim being left is there, a good possibility if you get rid of the rest of the crud on it that even one letter or a feature might allow you to ID it. Being that it is thin, the most logical is a counterfeit copper of some sort and the most common one would be a KGIII, so look for any of the details that are on a KGIII Halfpenny. A lot are undersized and all underweight unless made of other than copper.
If tracings, wetting the coin, and looking at different angles with lighting and magnification, than it is time to try a brass wire brush, but go slowly. I assume you already tried removing most of the crud, if not another soak in hot peroxide first and q-tip the gunk off..............
Nothing to lose and wanting to know what that worn out copper is, can give you the satisfaction you are looking for. Leaving it as it is, just leaves a  ? as to what is it............
Don
Well... Turns out it is completely blank. No markings at all. Oh well. Thanks for the info. Is there any way to figure out what type of coin it is from size?
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Jun 27, 2008, 01:38 AM
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Re: Copper found at 17th Century Homestead
 Originally Posted by pjroo33
 Originally Posted by Don in SJ
I am not sure that is completely blank, since some evidence of rim being left is there, a good possibility if you get rid of the rest of the crud on it that even one letter or a feature might allow you to ID it. Being that it is thin, the most logical is a counterfeit copper of some sort and the most common one would be a KGIII, so look for any of the details that are on a KGIII Halfpenny. A lot are undersized and all underweight unless made of other than copper.
If tracings, wetting the coin, and looking at different angles with lighting and magnification, than it is time to try a brass wire brush, but go slowly. I assume you already tried removing most of the crud, if not another soak in hot peroxide first and q-tip the gunk off..............
Nothing to lose and wanting to know what that worn out copper is, can give you the satisfaction you are looking for. Leaving it as it is, just leaves a  ? as to what is it............
Don
Well... Turns out it is completely blank. No markings at all. Oh well. Thanks for the info. Is there any way to figure out what type of coin it is from size?
You are doing the right sites, so stick at it until you get a better one. No point second guessing a blank.
TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!
'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds
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Jun 27, 2008, 07:03 AM
#13
Re: Copper found at 17th Century Homestead
Hey Aaron, that is just the appitizer, the main course is on its way. There is a LC out there with your name all over it.
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Jul 04, 2008, 11:15 PM
#14
Re: Copper found at 17th Century Homestead
I found a copper coin just like the one in your photo yesterday. It was lying on top of the ground in front of a tombstone. Still working on deciphering the writing.
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