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    What is this Mill?

    Hello All,


    I figured I'd just post this here--someone will know the answer, and it will be an easy "Solve."

    On one of my maps there are two mills that are listed as an "S.S. Mill." Just wondering if anyone had any ideas on that one. The other mills are just listed as "Mill."




    Any help is appreciated.



    -Buckleboy
    Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    TEN Half Reales:
    1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
    1836 8 Reales
    A 17?? One Real
    1819 Token/Jeton
    Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
    Henry Clay Campaign Button, 1820s or 1830s
    FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
    1838-O Dime (no stars), Two 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
    1892 Barber Dime
    1918 Walking Liberty Half
    1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
    Military Relics:
    Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
    FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
    1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
    CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
    CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
    3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  2. #2

    Re: What is this Mill?

    Hmmmmmn, never saw that on any of my maps, but perhaps Sluice Sawmill Hopefully someone will have a quick and obvious answer for you.

    Don

    Guess #2 - Steam Saw Mill
    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true.  For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

  3. #3

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    Re: What is this Mill?

    any silver mines in the area/ could be a sliver stamp mill.
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    Re: What is this Mill?

    Buckles...

    State Saw Mill

    You're welcome.

    Jim

  5. #5

    Re: What is this Mill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montana Jim
    Buckles...

    State Saw Mill

    You're welcome.

    Jim
    LOL, I hope it is in Kentucky than that would not be it for sure, since Kentucky is a Commonwealth But, knowing Will, it is probably a neighboring STATE, but somehow I like Steam Saw Mill better. They were portable saw mills.

    Don, sticking to guess #2, and that is what it is.....a guess
    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true.  For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

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    Re: What is this Mill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Don in SJ
    Quote Originally Posted by Montana Jim
    Buckles...

    State Saw Mill

    You're welcome.

    Jim
    LOL, I hope it is in Kentucky than that would not be it for sure, since Kentucky is a Commonwealth But, knowing Will, it is probably a neighboring STATE, but somehow I like Steam Saw Mill better. They were portable saw mills.

    Don, sticking to guess #2, and that is what it is.....a guess
    Big Don! pon firther research I am reading Steam Saw Mill... but the references are "assuming" that's what they are called... because all they had was SS Mill to go by as well. My State Saw Mill came from a PA reference... calling them SS Mill/s (State Saw Mill/s).

    My NEW reply is Steam Saw Mill.

    You're welcome.

    LMAO!


  7. #7

    Re: What is this Mill?

    We have had a few Steam Saw mills in this immediate area, but I have not ever seen reference SS, I have seen G Mill for Grist Mill and S Mill for Saw Mill, but I will look at some of my older maps now and see if any other types listed.
    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true.  For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

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    Re: What is this Mill?

    I have been noticing that KY is often referred to as a state especially by it's own government...

    mid 1800 PA maps use SS Mill, and maybe the same map maker did the same in the Commonwealth?

  9. #9

    Re: What is this Mill?

    Here is a link for a 1872 map of my area and there are several mills, but no S.S. Mills, just S.M and G.M. Never heard the term State Sawmill before, interesting.
    http://mapmaker.rutgers.edu/1872Atla...County1872.jpg
    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true.  For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

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    Re: What is this Mill?

    Soapstone Mill.....Maybe!!

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    Re: What is this Mill?

    "S. S. Mill" used here (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tnsumner/1878pllz.htm) to designate a saw mill.

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    Re: What is this Mill?

    Wow~! I hadn't thought that the replies would still be coming in. In this case, it is not a Commonwealth--but rather a nearby state.

    There is no creek nearby either of these mills.


    So is "Steam Saw Mill" is the best guess?



    -Buckles
    Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    TEN Half Reales:
    1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
    1836 8 Reales
    A 17?? One Real
    1819 Token/Jeton
    Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
    Henry Clay Campaign Button, 1820s or 1830s
    FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
    1838-O Dime (no stars), Two 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
    1892 Barber Dime
    1918 Walking Liberty Half
    1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
    Military Relics:
    Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
    FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
    1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
    CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
    CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
    3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

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    Re: What is this Mill?

    Buckles:
    By any chance are you looking in Tenn.?
    Don..

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    Re: What is this Mill?

    I'm pretty sure that these two mills were structures--not portable mills (unless I am misunderstanding the term "portable"). They were on an 1880's map, and by 1906 they are still there--not designated as Mills anymore, but rather Residences.


    -Buckles
    Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    TEN Half Reales:
    1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
    1836 8 Reales
    A 17?? One Real
    1819 Token/Jeton
    Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
    Henry Clay Campaign Button, 1820s or 1830s
    FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
    1838-O Dime (no stars), Two 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
    1892 Barber Dime
    1918 Walking Liberty Half
    1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
    Military Relics:
    Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
    FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
    1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
    CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
    CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
    3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

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    Re: What is this Mill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Don in SJ
    Here is a link for a 1872 map of my area and there are several mills, but no S.S. Mills, just S.M and G.M. Never heard the term State Sawmill before, interesting.
    http://mapmaker.rutgers.edu/1872Atla...County1872.jpg
    Okay... I may have really been WAY off base on this (the PA thing I mean). Referencing the "State Saw Mill"... It may have been an area, an address, or something other than a mill. Since I have no clue about what I am saying, I'm gonna shut-up now.


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    Re: What is this Mill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montana Jim
    Quote Originally Posted by Don in SJ
    Here is a link for a 1872 map of my area and there are several mills, but no S.S. Mills, just S.M and G.M. Never heard the term State Sawmill before, interesting.
    http://mapmaker.rutgers.edu/1872Atla...County1872.jpg
    Okay... I may have really been WAY off base on this (the PA thing I mean). Referencing the "State Saw Mill"... It may have been an area, an address, or something other than a mill. Since I have no clue about what I am saying, I'm gonna shut-up now.

    Dang! We've lost Jim!
    Spring 2012 CaneField Bandits Totals:
    TEN Half Reales:
    1740, 1777, 1784, 1796, 1801, 180?, 1806, 1807, 1808, and 1814
    1836 8 Reales
    A 17?? One Real
    1819 Token/Jeton
    Two "Russian Blue" Trade Beads
    Henry Clay Campaign Button, 1820s or 1830s
    FIVE Early New Orleans Seated Coins:
    1838-O Dime (no stars), Two 1839-O Half Dimes, an 1840-O Dime, and an 1842-O Half Dime
    1892 Barber Dime
    1918 Walking Liberty Half
    1866 and 18?? Shield Nickels, and some GawGag V's and Beefaloes.
    Military Relics:
    Possible Spanish Colonial Era Cap Badge
    FOUR War of 1812 Artillery Buttons
    1820s Pewter Militia "U.S." Button
    CW Eagle Artillery Cuff Button
    CW Eagle Infantry Officer's Coat Button
    3-Ringers, Enfields, Musketballs, and Shell Fragments

    Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.

  17. #17

    Re: What is this Mill?

    Steam Saw Mills, maybe I should not have used the word portable, but somewhere in the deep recesses of my memory bank that adjective came to mind. The two Steam Mills I know of, both had permament structures, both were much later in use than the vast majority of saw mills in this area, and both were not next to a stream/dam.
    Steam Saw Mills, cough cough, now known as SS Mills? I believe were in use in late 1800's into 1900's. Most of the saw mills in this area were built on streams with a dam and they are almost all from the 1700's to very early 1800's.

    Don
    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true.  For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

  18. #18

    Feb 2008
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    Re: What is this Mill?

    Could it be a Silaca Sand mill? There is
    one about 20 mi. north of us but were
    not in Kentucky either. Just a n idea. Jimbob

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    Re: What is this Mill?

    is the area next to water - if not * a portible type steam sawmill is high possible --- they were movible to where they were cutting wood at esp near train track areas. thus they moved finished product via the trains

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    Re: What is this Mill?

    Quote Originally Posted by ivan salis
    is the area next to water - if not * a portible type steam sawmill is high possible --- they were movible to where they were cutting wood at esp near train track areas. thus they moved finished product via the trains
    One of the two known steam saw mills I know of in my area was within a few hundred feet of a RR that was active from late 1800's to present. The other one is in an isolated area, close to a very small stream, not large enough to dam the water for sawmill use.

    Don
    "The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
    For undug coins this is true.  For dug coins this is untrue.
    The value will increase with judicious cleaning."

 

 
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