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Jul 11, 2008, 11:41 AM
#1
Variety? CT copper
Have had this a long time and don't think I ever tried to nail down what type. The coin is a little better to see in person so if I can get on the right track i may be able to figure it out.
Maybe MILLER 33.2-Z.5, but so many are close.
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Jul 11, 2008, 12:35 PM
#2
Re: Variety? CT copper
Looks like another scarp metal piece
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Jul 11, 2008, 12:38 PM
#3
Re: Variety? CT copper
 Originally Posted by CRUSADER
That's why it hasn't been Id'ed, it was in the junk pile. Some of these are rare enough to still be worth $$$ even in this condition. Of course I will not be that lucky.
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Jul 11, 2008, 12:41 PM
#4
Re: Variety? CT copper
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
 Originally Posted by CRUSADER
That's why it hasn't been Id'ed, it was in the junk pile. Some of these are rare enough to still be worth $$$ even in this condition. Of course I will not be that lucky.
I already learnt that some of these make crazy prices. Good luck!
PS. It amazes me some of these make 10 what a rare Celtic Silver Unit does
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Jul 11, 2008, 12:46 PM
#5
Re: Variety? CT copper
 Originally Posted by CRUSADER
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
 Originally Posted by CRUSADER
That's why it hasn't been Id'ed, it was in the junk pile. Some of these are rare enough to still be worth $$$ even in this condition. Of course I will not be that lucky.
I already learnt that some of these make crazy prices. Good luck!
PS. It amazes me some of these make 10 what a rare Celtic Silver Unit does 
A local fellow here sold a Vermont he dug for $2300 USD. It was by no means perfect, not even close in fact.
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Jul 11, 2008, 12:49 PM
#6
Re: Variety? CT copper
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
 Originally Posted by CRUSADER
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
 Originally Posted by CRUSADER
That's why it hasn't been Id'ed, it was in the junk pile. Some of these are rare enough to still be worth $$$ even in this condition. Of course I will not be that lucky.
I already learnt that some of these make crazy prices. Good luck!
PS. It amazes me some of these make 10 what a rare Celtic Silver Unit does 
A local fellow here sold a Vermont he dug for $2300 USD. It was by no means perfect, not even close in fact.
Do these collectors have money to burn? If I was going to collect coins (which I do), they would be at the bottom of the list. I would get a nice medieval goldie or the like for that price!
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How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
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Jul 11, 2008, 12:52 PM
#7
Re: Variety? CT copper
 Originally Posted by CRUSADER
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
 Originally Posted by CRUSADER
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
 Originally Posted by CRUSADER
That's why it hasn't been Id'ed, it was in the junk pile. Some of these are rare enough to still be worth $$$ even in this condition. Of course I will not be that lucky.
I already learnt that some of these make crazy prices. Good luck!
PS. It amazes me some of these make 10 what a rare Celtic Silver Unit does 
A local fellow here sold a Vermont he dug for $2300 USD. It was by no means perfect, not even close in fact.
Do these collectors have money to burn? If I was going to collect coins (which I do), they would be at the bottom of the list. I would get a nice medieval goldie or the like for that price!
Early American history my friend.
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Jul 11, 2008, 12:53 PM
#8
Re: Variety? CT copper
Yikes, well, it is in much better shape than my last CT copper found this year and a hundred times better than the copper I found this morning, which I still cannot even ID as to what it was, other than it is 9.43 grams. I will look at the charts later for yours Iron Patch, but I think some key areas of detail for attributing variety, just may not be there.
Crusader, it is a shame that a lot of Brits say they throw their coppers(KGII & KGIII) in the trash so to speak, a lot of knowledge about the counterfeits could be learned if more were saved and studied. A group from C4 has been in the process for years of trying to identify the counterfeits by place of origin and assigning family names to groups.
Don
"The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
The value will increase with judicious cleaning."
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Jul 11, 2008, 12:57 PM
#9
Re: Variety? CT copper
 Originally Posted by Don in SJ
Yikes, well, it is in much better shape than my last CT copper found this year and a hundred times better than the copper I found this morning, which I still cannot even ID as to what it was, other than it is 9.43 grams. I will look at the charts later for yours Iron Patch, but I think some key areas of detail for attributing variety, just may not be there.
Crusader, it is a shame that a lot of Brits say they throw their coppers(KGII & KGIII) in the trash so to speak, a lot of knowledge about the counterfeits could be learned if more were saved and studied. A group from C4 has been in the process for years of trying to identify the counterfeits by place of origin and assigning family names to groups.
Don
I think the positioning of the 87 narrows it down quite a bit, but even from there they are looking very close. Condition is the reason I haven't bothered with this one having dug it at least 5 years ago. I may be able to clean it slightly better.
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Jul 11, 2008, 01:02 PM
#10
Re: Variety? CT copper
 Originally Posted by Don in SJ
Yikes, well, it is in much better shape than my last CT copper found this year and a hundred times better than the copper I found this morning, which I still cannot even ID as to what it was, other than it is 9.43 grams. I will look at the charts later for yours Iron Patch, but I think some key areas of detail for attributing variety, just may not be there.
Crusader, it is a shame that a lot of Brits say they throw their coppers(KGII & KGIII) in the trash so to speak, a lot of knowledge about the counterfeits could be learned if more were saved and studied. A group from C4 has been in the process for years of trying to identify the counterfeits by place of origin and assigning family names to groups.
Don
I would never throw away a counterfiet, to be honest I have found very few & would treasure those. I know just the man to record them as well. So don't worry nothing lost from me other than blank Regals.
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Jul 11, 2008, 01:07 PM
#11
Re: Variety? CT copper
 Originally Posted by CRUSADER
 Originally Posted by Don in SJ
Yikes, well, it is in much better shape than my last CT copper found this year and a hundred times better than the copper I found this morning, which I still cannot even ID as to what it was, other than it is 9.43 grams. I will look at the charts later for yours Iron Patch, but I think some key areas of detail for attributing variety, just may not be there.
Crusader, it is a shame that a lot of Brits say they throw their coppers(KGII & KGIII) in the trash so to speak, a lot of knowledge about the counterfeits could be learned if more were saved and studied. A group from C4 has been in the process for years of trying to identify the counterfeits by place of origin and assigning family names to groups.
Don
I would never throw away a counterfiet, to be honest I have found very few & would treasure those. I know just the man to record them as well. So don't worry nothing lost from me other than blank Regals.
Yeah, really... you don't seem to find much for being there.
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Jul 11, 2008, 01:09 PM
#12
Re: Variety? CT copper
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
 Originally Posted by CRUSADER
 Originally Posted by Don in SJ
Yikes, well, it is in much better shape than my last CT copper found this year and a hundred times better than the copper I found this morning, which I still cannot even ID as to what it was, other than it is 9.43 grams. I will look at the charts later for yours Iron Patch, but I think some key areas of detail for attributing variety, just may not be there.
Crusader, it is a shame that a lot of Brits say they throw their coppers(KGII & KGIII) in the trash so to speak, a lot of knowledge about the counterfeits could be learned if more were saved and studied. A group from C4 has been in the process for years of trying to identify the counterfeits by place of origin and assigning family names to groups.
Don
I would never throw away a counterfiet, to be honest I have found very few & would treasure those. I know just the man to record them as well. So don't worry nothing lost from me other than blank Regals.
Yeah, really... you don't seem to find much for being there. 
I know, its odd really. I guess we shipped them all to you
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'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
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Jul 11, 2008, 01:10 PM
#13
Re: Variety? CT copper
 Originally Posted by CRUSADER
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
 Originally Posted by CRUSADER
 Originally Posted by Don in SJ
Yikes, well, it is in much better shape than my last CT copper found this year and a hundred times better than the copper I found this morning, which I still cannot even ID as to what it was, other than it is 9.43 grams. I will look at the charts later for yours Iron Patch, but I think some key areas of detail for attributing variety, just may not be there.
Crusader, it is a shame that a lot of Brits say they throw their coppers(KGII & KGIII) in the trash so to speak, a lot of knowledge about the counterfeits could be learned if more were saved and studied. A group from C4 has been in the process for years of trying to identify the counterfeits by place of origin and assigning family names to groups.
Don
I would never throw away a counterfiet, to be honest I have found very few & would treasure those. I know just the man to record them as well. So don't worry nothing lost from me other than blank Regals.
Yeah, really... you don't seem to find much for being there. 
I know, its odd really. I guess we shipped them all to you 
I don't find a great number but I like all types of finds so usually satisified with hunting any old site.
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Jul 11, 2008, 01:17 PM
#14
Re: Variety? CT copper
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
 Originally Posted by CRUSADER
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
 Originally Posted by CRUSADER
 Originally Posted by Don in SJ
Yikes, well, it is in much better shape than my last CT copper found this year and a hundred times better than the copper I found this morning, which I still cannot even ID as to what it was, other than it is 9.43 grams. I will look at the charts later for yours Iron Patch, but I think some key areas of detail for attributing variety, just may not be there.
Crusader, it is a shame that a lot of Brits say they throw their coppers(KGII & KGIII) in the trash so to speak, a lot of knowledge about the counterfeits could be learned if more were saved and studied. A group from C4 has been in the process for years of trying to identify the counterfeits by place of origin and assigning family names to groups.
Don
I would never throw away a counterfiet, to be honest I have found very few & would treasure those. I know just the man to record them as well. So don't worry nothing lost from me other than blank Regals.
Yeah, really... you don't seem to find much for being there. 
I know, its odd really. I guess we shipped them all to you 
I don't find a great number but I like all types of finds so usually satisified with hunting any old site.
Me too, only difference is my old sites are older 
I can tell you do your research & it pays off for you. You have a great collection which like mine will only get better. 
Keep posting I like your finds.
I have family in Canada & was thinking of going there one day to Ski.
TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!
'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
How do you find Gold coins? Reply: 'By finding lots of Silver ones..'
A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds
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Jul 11, 2008, 01:20 PM
#15
Re: Variety? CT copper
 Originally Posted by CRUSADER
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
 Originally Posted by CRUSADER
 Originally Posted by Iron Patch
 Originally Posted by CRUSADER
 Originally Posted by Don in SJ
Yikes, well, it is in much better shape than my last CT copper found this year and a hundred times better than the copper I found this morning, which I still cannot even ID as to what it was, other than it is 9.43 grams. I will look at the charts later for yours Iron Patch, but I think some key areas of detail for attributing variety, just may not be there.
Crusader, it is a shame that a lot of Brits say they throw their coppers(KGII & KGIII) in the trash so to speak, a lot of knowledge about the counterfeits could be learned if more were saved and studied. A group from C4 has been in the process for years of trying to identify the counterfeits by place of origin and assigning family names to groups.
Don
I would never throw away a counterfiet, to be honest I have found very few & would treasure those. I know just the man to record them as well. So don't worry nothing lost from me other than blank Regals.
Yeah, really... you don't seem to find much for being there. 
I know, its odd really. I guess we shipped them all to you 
I don't find a great number but I like all types of finds so usually satisified with hunting any old site.
Me too, only difference is my old sites are older
I can tell you do your research & it pays off for you. You have a great collection which like mine will only get better.
Keep posting I like your finds.
I have family in Canada & was thinking of going there one day to Ski.
Yes I think your sites have me by a few years. I don't hit the Roman stuff too often. 
Ski? You mean sliding down a hill with 2 detectors in hand? I'd be into that.
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Jul 11, 2008, 01:27 PM
#16
Re: Variety? CT copper
IP, I think your attribution might be correct, I have not seen anything that does not match the Miller 33.2-Z.5 variety, now go find a rare variety.
Still no detail at all on the copper I found today, so I am giving my 6 year old grandson some training of toothpicking and cotton swabbing a copper. 
Don
"The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
The value will increase with judicious cleaning."
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Jul 11, 2008, 01:31 PM
#17
Re: Variety? CT copper
 Originally Posted by Don in SJ
IP, I think your attribution might be correct, I have not seen anything that does not match the Miller 33.2-Z.5 variety, now go find a rare variety.
Still no detail at all on the copper I found today, so I am giving my 6 year old grandson some training of toothpicking and cotton swabbing a copper.
Don
I hope your paying minimum wage
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Jul 11, 2008, 01:33 PM
#18
Re: Variety? CT copper
 Originally Posted by CRUSADER
 Originally Posted by Don in SJ
IP, I think your attribution might be correct, I have not seen anything that does not match the Miller 33.2-Z.5 variety, now go find a rare variety.
Still no detail at all on the copper I found today, so I am giving my 6 year old grandson some training of toothpicking and cotton swabbing a copper.
Don
I hope your paying minimum wage 
He's a smart kid, has a European account.
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Jul 11, 2008, 01:35 PM
#19
Re: Variety? CT copper
He is actually doing a good job of picking off the crud, this copper is without a doubt, a Whatisit! :P I think he will be paid off when I taking him hunting and he finds his first Large Cent before the age of 7 or 8. (I hope)
"The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
The value will increase with judicious cleaning."
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Jul 11, 2008, 01:37 PM
#20
Re: Variety? CT copper
 Originally Posted by Don in SJ
He is actually doing a good job of picking off the crud, this copper is without a doubt, a Whatisit! :P I think he will be paid off when I taking him hunting and he finds his first Large Cent before the age of 7 or 8. (I hope)
Has he got the bug?
I tried getting my Brother interested & I found him asleep in the middle of a stubble corn field. Very unconfortable I thought
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