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  1. #1
    us
    Jul 2007
    Florida
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    some interesting beach finds - please help identify

    These items were found on the beach a couple of weeks ago after storms. Trying to identify and date them.

    The lead bullet has a brass/copper shell. How old does it look? What .cal?

    Thanks.
    HH.
    Moe

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  2. #2
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    Jul 2005
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    Re: some interesting beach finds - please help identify

    I'm gonna take a guess and say the bullet is 30 caliber, looks too small to be a 50 cal. The pendant, if I'm not mistaken, is a kokopeli. There was a night club some time ago in my area with the same name and that symbol was on the front of the building.
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  3. #3

    Dec 2005
    Pinehurst. Idaho
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    Re: some interesting beach finds - please help identify

    Pic. 2 is a fired rifle or pistol bullet. It is "mushroomed" from striking something or somebody.

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    Re: some interesting beach finds - please help identify

    Quote Originally Posted by willie d
    I'm gonna take a guess and say the bullet is 30 caliber, looks too small to be a 50 cal. The pendant, if I'm not mistaken, is a kokopeli. There was a night club some time ago in my area with the same name and that symbol was on the front of the building.
    Yes, I believe you are right willie. It is Kokopelli.


    Who is Kokopeli?

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    According to Hopi Indian legend, Kokopeli (the flute player and traveling prankster) was the symbol of happiness, joy, and fertility. He would visit villages playing his flute, carrying seeds in his backpack (the "hump" he is pictured as having). Everyone would sing and dance through the night. Then, while the people slept, Kokopeli would roam the corn fields, playing his flute. The next morning the people would awake to find the corn almost full grown and Kokopeli gone, and many of the young women of the village pregnant. One legend has it that he is responsible for the end of winter and the coming of spring. When, the story goes, Kokopeli comes playing his flute, the sun comes out, the snow melts, the green grass grows, the birds begin to sing, and all the animals gather around to hear his songs.
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    da book worm--researcher

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    Re: some interesting beach finds - please help identify

    the one is modern bit of native american "tourist" indain folk jewelry --the bullet is modern too (copper coated equals modern bullet )--however you did find an excellent old style buckle or strap type item that could be very very old -- Ivan

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    monty

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    Re: some interesting beach finds - please help identify

    Don't know about the rest but the bullet is a fairly contemporary design, designed to mushroom on impact to form a larger wound channel. Early bullets were of very large calliber because engineering hadn't invented the mushrooming bullet yet. Monty
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  7. #7
    us
    Jul 2008
    Northwest Arkansas
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    Re: some interesting beach finds - please help identify

    no question about the hopi Kokopeli, the bullet was fired through a rifled barrel and hit something looks to be 30cal full jacket. I have found a bunch of those rusty strap guides ( a lot of them were on the old style weight belts for diving).
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  8. #8
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    DFCA

    Dec 2006
    Kansas
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    Re: some interesting beach finds - please help identify

    the strap guides were also used on rifle slings

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    monty

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    Re: some interesting beach finds - please help identify

    I've never seen a .30 cal full metal jacket mushroom like that. I have shot around 10,000+ of them in my life time. If it is a .30 cal it is likely a soft point, that is with exposed lead at the very tip before being fired. At any rate, we know for sure it is not an old bullet. Monty
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    Re: some interesting beach finds - please help identify

    Quote Originally Posted by Monty
    I've never seen a .30 cal full metal jacket mushroom like that. I have shot around 10,000+ of them in my life time. If it is a .30 cal it is likely a soft point, that is with exposed lead at the very tip before being fired. At any rate, we know for sure it is not an old bullet. Monty
    I agree soft point. I have removed softpoint slugs from deer and hogs that look like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by greengorilla
    I have found a bunch of those rusty strap guides ( a lot of them were on the old style weight belts for diving).
    I agree strap or belt guide, part of the total adjustment, might be stainless.
    I live in a state of rules where I am not permitted to live on my own country land because my home is not 130 MPH rated! I can only visit it from time to time and pay the fines.  I feel so safe with Big Government protecting me. In some states its illegal to collect rainwater.

  11. #11
    us
    Jul 2007
    Florida
    Minelab
    673

    Re: some interesting beach finds - please help identify

    Thanks to all for the replies!

    The strap has MADE IN USA written on its lower edge. It is probably modern!

    Does anyone know what the item in the first two pics is? I am guessing part of an old key door plate.

    HH.
    Moe

  12. #12
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    Re: some interesting beach finds - please help identify

    maybe part of a lock?

 

 

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