Need Button/Coat of Arms ID

[Brendan M.]

Hello Friends!

I dug this nice gilt coat button the other day, and would love some info on it. It's gilded brass/copper, and is a little bigger than a quarter. The backmark reads: "Firmin & Sons, 153 Strand, London," which according to my sources dates the button in the mid-1800s, but no later than 1875.

Has anyone seen this coat of arms before?

Thanks in advance!

Cheers,
Brendan

[Iron Patch]

Seen similar, would have to say livery button. See what others think.

If only you could dig a super rare military looking like that!

[CRUSADER]

Looks like a Livery button (late Victorian 1870s). Its probably a wealthy family but it possibly could be a generic issue

[Montana Jim]

I agree with the livery button... Crest & Shield type.

Except they did make them from 1876 - 1894 NOTE: Not with the given back mark as don in SJ points out below! My bad!

1876-1894
Firmin & Sons Ld
153 Strand London
Livery buttons

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/button-makers.html#anchora

[Don in SJ]

The backmark of his button matches the early dates of 1852-1878, only when the backmark had the letters LD in it was it 1879 and later.
Tice says in 1879 the firm evolved from Firmin & Sons to Firmin & Sons, Limited.

Don

[Montana Jim]

Doh! Thanks Don

I updated my post.

[Brendan M.]

Looks like a Livery button (late Victorian 1870s). Its probably a wealthy family but it possibly could be a generic issue

I agree with the livery button... Crest & Shield type.

Except they did make them from 1876 - 1894 NOTE: Not with the given back mark as don in SJ points out below! My bad!

1876-1894
Firmin & Sons Ld
153 Strand London
Livery buttons

http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/button-makers.html#anchora

The backmark of his button matches the early dates of 1852-1878, only when the backmark had the letters LD in it was it 1879 and later.
Tice says in 1879 the firm evolved from Firmin & Sons to Firmin & Sons, Limited.

Don

Thanks for the info, everyone!

Cheers and HH,
B