What should detect deeper a DFX or MXT

MackDog

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Jim in Idaho

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LOL...that's like asking "which is faster, Ford or Chevy?"
Jim
 

fmrUSMC_0844

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I have used both. I think the depth on the 2 are close to the same. The DFX just has more bells and whistles and frequencies than the MXT. But if you want raw power without all the tweaking, the MXT is the way to go.
 

Jim in Idaho

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The point I was trying to make is it's all about the conditions. There are places the DFX will greatly outperform the MXT. One, for instance is at the beach. Another is in places with hundreds of nails and other iron trash, like burned-down cabins, or other buildings. Without knowing the circumstances, it's impossible to answer the question. They're both great detectors.
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Places with hundreds of nails is going to be tough for any detector but the recovery speed is very fast on the MXT, I'm not sure the DFX will be better in high trash area's. The beach it will do better of course because of the multi freq. HH
The point I was trying to make is it's all about the conditions. There are places the DFX will greatly outperform the MXT. One, for instance is at the beach. Another is in places with hundreds of nails and other iron trash, like burned-down cabins, or other buildings. Without knowing the circumstances, it's impossible to answer the question. They're both great detectors.
Jim
 

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Wingmaster nailed it. I've had both and liked the DFX better.
 

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Jim in Idaho

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Places with hundreds of nails is going to be tough for any detector but the recovery speed is very fast on the MXT, I'm not sure the DFX will be better in high trash area's. The beach it will do better of course because of the multi freq. HH
Yes, but you can crank up the recovery speed on the DFX, AND run in correlate mode, which almost completely cancels all the nails, and iron. That dual freq capability is tops for trashy sites.
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wingmaster

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Cancelling out the nails is great but finding the target under them is a different story, I've detected really trashy parks where the only silver left is 10"+ and the MXT is able to get as deep as the V3i and pull as many coins. I never feel outgunned with the MXT and I've got dimes at a full 12". HH before
Yes, but you can crank up the recovery speed on the DFX, AND run in correlate mode, which almost completely cancels all the nails, and iron. That dual freq capability is tops for trashy sites.
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Jim in Idaho

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Like I said, they're both great units. It's all about the conditions where they're used that determines which is best at THAT location. Neither one is best in all conditions.
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Cancelling out the nails is great but finding the target under them is a different story, I've detected really trashy parks where the only silver left is 10"+ and the MXT is able to get as deep as the V3i and pull as many coins. I never feel outgunned with the MXT and I've got dimes at a full 12". HH before

Specific machines aside...this concept is so easily ignored/ not recognized by lots of folks. 99% of the time, I'm hunting in all metal and use discrimination as an interrogation tool. Not gonna lie...every once in a while, I take my detector out for a walk in the park with discrim set to cherry pick coins and keep my sanity. :)
 

Jim in Idaho

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I've got an old mining camp that has nails every 3 or 4 inches from burned-down cabins. The DFX stilll manages to find coins in that trash. I run correlate mode, and use a 4 x 6 coil. For all I know, the MXT would do as well, but I'd be surprised.
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I own and still use both machines for 7 years now. Just came off of a site that had a burned out homestead loaded with nails and large iron. I used both machines on the site numerous times. The older MXT with full blast gain and no discrim with trigger forward gives me two sounds that helps separate the iron from good targets moving slowly it finds those little items. It also loves some iron while still maintaining a lower grunt (discrimination) on little nails. I would have missed one, two, and three pound cannon balls and all kinds of hand forged items if I was only using the DFX. The DFX sees the iron and lets me know its there but the MXT roars in with a good signal on certain hand forged items that I would have dismissed and never dug. Both machines have the ability to go deep with good separation. The DFX is my first choice since it allows me to totally adjust the machine to my liking. On the beach it kicks tail. With both machines on the site I always found something. Art
 

George (MN)

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I had the MXT & got dimes to 6" with wet ground, but we don't have mineral-free soil here. In that same park the Garrett AT Pro got a dime down 7" when soil was totally dry. The AT Pro must be manually ground balanced for best depth & ID. White's has auto ground track. So maybe White's sometimes has an advantage.

I talked to Steve at White's & he said the AT Pro doesn't do real well in their heavier mineralization. For testing new detectors they are developing, White's has 40 soil samples from all over the world.

Any day now, White's will have 2 new detectors, the Treasuremaster ($299 MSRP, $279 MAP price) & Treasurepro ($399 MSRP, $369 MAP price). They will have giant numerical IDs, can be safely used in the rain, use only 2 AA batteries & weigh only 3 lbs. The Treasuremaster comes with 9.5" round concentric coil. The Treasurepro comes with 10" DD coil. The depth reading goes to 10"+. They will have auto-tracking (the Treasurepro includes lock option for trashy sites), threshold to help hear the weakest beeps. They also have a beach mode. There is a little triangle in a circle that points to probable target.

There is always new software & other new ideas by design engineers to make detectors better &/or cheaper, and the reduced weight should enable many to detect more comfortably over many hours. The large numerical IDs will help those with bad vision to keep using the visual IDs. I'm thinking these detectors are likely replacements for the Coinmaster Pro & Coinmaster GT, as the prices are the same despite improvements. They can use any coils for current Coinmasters & recent Prizms, as the operating frequencies are close. I hope the IDs will be less jumpy. Will be watching for 1st reviews. Best wishes, George (MN)
 

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Tnshooter

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I've used both while relic hunting. They both are about the same in depth.
But in certain situations the dfx can be setup to be more reliable on targets down deep.
the mxt will pick up targets at the same depth but not be as consistent on the vdi.
this isn't n issue with me as I relic hunt and dig anything above iron.

I have not used or compared an mxt-pro. So I can't say how it would compare.

My opinion is they are equal in depth. They both sound on targets. You just have to dig it.
 

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If you are asking which will Beep the Deepest then there Is Not a lot In It, But If you are Asking which Machine will Let you know that something is Down There Then The MXT will Go along way Down, Way Past other Machines and it will Smoke Most PI Machines In Normal Ground with Equal Sized Coils.
 

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