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    Oct 2006
    Nampa Idaho
    White MXT
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    More valuable info for the MXT, GOLD settings

    Here is more info from my buddy gerrysdetectors.com. This information was provided by Steve Herschbach.

    These settings and this info was provided by Steve Herschbach, a friend
    and
    detectorist from AK.



    I myself have tried them on my last trip to Ganes Creek, AK in June
    2005 and
    ended up finding over 17 ounces of gold nuggets. I recommend these
    settings
    in areas with a lot of trash and larger gold nuggets. Photos of gold
    are
    on my web site in the PHOTOS section.



    Steve's opinion

    " I've used a lot of VLF gold nugget detectors over the years, but have
    been
    particularly happy with the White's MXT. One huge reason is that unlike
    other dedicated nugget detectors it has a LCD based visual
    discrimination
    indicator (VDI) system. I'm sure White's included this mainly in line
    with
    the MXTs intended goal as a multi-use machine. But it turns out that
    for
    certain nugget detecting tasks the MXT has extra capabilities only now
    being
    realized.

    Alaska has huge areas of old mining tailings that provide great
    opportunities for nugget detecting. Virgin ground is covered by
    overburden
    thicker than detectors can penetrate in most cases, so in many areas
    these
    tailings are all there is to detect. And the nature of the old
    operations
    were such that many of the very largest nuggets were lost into the
    tailing
    piles.

    But there is a huge catch. Some of these tailing piles contain
    incredible
    amounts of iron junk, and at any depth. Some creeks were mined many
    times,
    and so old campsites and dumps were churned up and mixed in with the
    tailings. This junk can be anything from rusted flakes and slivers of
    steel
    on up to cans, bolts, washers and nuts, and finally even 55 gallon
    drums,
    and various large steel plates, pipes, boilers, or even larger items.

    Ganes Creek, Alaska is possibly the best known of these locations. New
    visitors from areas in the western US where the Minelab SD/GP detectors
    have
    reigned supreme have had a hard time adjusting to the concept that
    there is
    such a thing as too much power when coupled to a poor discrimination
    system.

    If you run a Minelab at Ganes Creek here is a likely scenario. You are
    in a
    field of fist-sized and larger cobbles. You get a nice little signal
    and no
    iron blanking. So you start to dig, as best you can in a pile of rocks.
    It
    is as much hand excavations at times as digging. After some effort you
    are
    at two feet, signal is louder, but no target. You pull out another
    cobble
    and half the hole falls in. You pull all those rocks out, and get
    another
    foot down. 45 minutes has passed. You pull out another rock and the
    hole
    caves in again. 15 minutes later you are at 3 feet again and really
    tired.
    Over an hour has passed since you started this hole. The signal is very
    loud
    now...too loud really. You dig down a bit more, then some more, and the
    whole thing caves in again.

    You walk away in disgust.

    How deep can you hit a large can with a GP 3000? How about a 2'x 2'
    steel
    plate? How about a 55 gallon drum? They are all there waiting! Normally
    you
    would just figure it is junk past a certain depth, but the big question
    always must be how deep could you hit the 35 oz or 80 oz pieces found
    this
    summer, or the 122 oz chunk that stands as the largest found at Ganes
    so
    far?

    Because of this huge junk problem VLF detectors have generally been the
    way
    to go at Ganes. The low mineral conditions means they keep you from
    wasting
    huge amounts of time going after junk targets. Most any good VLF
    machine
    works well for this, but the MXT gives you some extra capability once
    you
    learn its tricks.

    Four things to know. 1. VDI numbers increase as the nugget size
    increases.
    So a ¼ oz nugget will read around 25 whereas a 1 oz nugget will read
    around
    60 and a 2 oz nugget will read around 70. 2. The larger a nugget, the
    deeper
    you can detect it 3. Certain steel items can give positive VDI numbers
    and
    4. VDI numbers are "pulled down" the deeper the nugget is buried. So a
    ¼ oz
    nugget near the surface will read 25, but at depth might read 10, and
    at max
    depth may finally read at 0 or lower and actually be called iron.

    This last point is very important, as if you run a Fisher Gold Bug 2,
    or
    Tesoro Lobo, or Troy X5 is disc mode to tune out iron, as is normal for
    many
    people at Ganes Creek, deep nuggets may read as iron. If they are, the
    machines will reject them, you will get no signal, and walk past the
    nugget.

    With the MXT I like to run the detector in relic mode, with the disc
    set
    precisely at 2. Non-ferrous items will give a hi tone, and ferrous junk
    a
    low tone. If you get a faint lo tone, the first thing you do is kick
    and
    inch or two off the surface. If the VDI number rises, keep digging!
    Targets
    that read iron initially and rise will often turn into non-ferrous
    readings... hopefully gold. If the VDI number stays the same or goes
    even
    lower, you have an iron target. With one of these other machines you
    would
    need to run in all-metal, then switch to discriminate mode to check the
    target. If the target was faint, and now disappears, kick off the
    surface,
    and check again. If it now beeps, keep digging. The end result here is
    the
    same, but the MXT makes it easier as there is no switching between
    modes
    needed to do this kind of checking.

    Where the MXT really shines are on ¼ oz to ½ oz nuggets. Let's say
    you get a
    reading of 24. OK, that is about a ¼ oz nugget. Now, we know that you
    can
    hit a nugget this size at 10-12 inches. So you dig a foot, and no
    nugget. A
    large, deep iron item of a certain type can also give a 24 reading, but
    these large items can be detected much deeper than a ¼ oz nugget. Dig
    them
    up if you wish, but once you go past that depth at which it is
    reasonable to
    find a nugget corresponding to a certain VDI number you are wasting
    your
    time. This method eliminates digging those false positive signals from
    deep
    items like steel plates. With the other VLF units the lack of VDI
    number
    means you have no way to judge the potential nugget size and so you end
    up
    digging deep for what may be a very large nugget when with a MXT you
    would
    know the VDI number corresponds to a smaller nugget. For the many
    smaller
    nuggets that are found at Ganes this method is pretty foolproof once
    you get
    the hang of it.

    Finally, certain non-ferrous items can be found in quantity,
    particularly
    things like .22 shell casings. If you get into a bunch of these, they
    are
    usually very shallow. You can easily determine the VDI number of these
    multiple identical targets and then simply ignore them. You would miss
    a
    nugget with an identical VDI reading, but chances are a nugget will
    vary
    enough to make it stand out. No way to do this with a non-VDI unit.

    Many thanks to Dave Rankin for pointing out the correlation between
    nugget
    size, VDI number, and possible recovery depth. It was a real eye-opener
    once
    I put it into practice at Ganes Creek."

    .
    Steve Herschbach


 

 

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