1865 Shield Five Cent Piece?

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Got permission to hit an 1840’s house yard today, didn’t find much, but I did find this shield nickel. After cleaning it, the date looks like 1865 to me. When I looked them up, the first official date for issuing them is 1866, but apparently some of the earliest one did have a date of 1865. What do you think?
 
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View attachment 2009086 View attachment 2009087 Got permission to hit an 1840’s house yard today, didn’t find much, but I did find this shield nickel. After cleaning it, the date looks like 1865 to me. When I looked them up, the first official date for issuing them is 1866, but apparently some of the earliest one did have a date of 1865. What do you think?
Zoomed in by increasing the screen by 500%. I vote for "5". I'd like to find one even with no date showing.
 

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View attachment 2009086 View attachment 2009087 Got permission to hit an 1840’s house yard today, didn’t find much, but I did find this shield nickel. After cleaning it, the date looks like 1865 to me. When I looked them up, the first official date for issuing them is 1866, but apparently some of the earliest one did have a date of 1865. What do you think?
very cool find is what I think
 

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It does look like a 5 in the picture. Sometimes a number on the date was smashed down to distort the original number and make it look like another one. You would really have to put a good loupe on it or take it to a coin shop for clarification. No matter what the last digit is, a Shield Nickel is a great coin to find.
 

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well not according to these folks??? They may have made prototypes but I can't imagine any of those getting into circulation.
Ocean7 is on to something. 1865 Patterns were made of the shield nickel, and the 2-cent piece, sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shield_nickel

But I think we have to be realistic: these patterns were just that - patterns the mint used to test various dies ahead of issuing general circulation coins, made in very VERY small numbers and carefully controlled. The chances of a pattern coin getting into circulation, and then into the ground where a detectors would find it, are very low.

The chances of an 1866 (mintage: 14.7million) being dropped and then the natural affects of the ground causing the last digit to be unclear are much, much higher.
(Plus I think I see the last digit as a "6" anyway).

I'm sorry - I'm not trying to rain on your parade, @Fullstock .
I've gone through the same struggle lately with a coin (see my comments about 1803 vs 1807 in this thread, where I say "Let me talk about that Draped Bust for a minute": https://www.treasurenet.com/threads...n-two-of-us-including-2-state-coppers.673527/). It's hard to stay objective, and I'm sure that's why you asked everyone for their input via this thread, Fullstock.
I hope you won't hate me for my input.
- Brian
 
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Ocean7 is on to something. 1865 Patterns were made of the shield nickel, and the 2-cent piece, sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shield_nickel

But I think we have to be realistic: these patterns were just that - patterns the mint used to test various dies ahead of issuing general circulation coins, made in very VERY small numbers and carefully controlled. The chances of a pattern coin getting into circulation, and then into the ground where a detectors would find it, are very low.

The chances of an 1866 (mintage: 14.7million) being dropped and then the natural affects of the ground causing the last digit to be unclear are much, much higher.
(Plus I think I see the last digit as a "6" anyway).

I'm sorry - I'm not trying to rain on your parade, @Fullstock .
I've gone through the same struggle lately with a coin (see my comments about 1803 vs 1807 in this thread, where I say "Let me talk about that Draped Bust for a minute": https://www.treasurenet.com/threads...n-two-of-us-including-2-state-coppers.673527/). It's hard to stay objective, and I'm sure that's why you asked everyone for their input via this thread, Fullstock.
I hope you won't hate me for my input.
- Brian
It’s all good Brian, that’s why I asked for opinions.
 

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