Another token and some silver

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Another newcastle token J. T Parish token /coin and a silver coin not a bad day detecting oh and also some sort of glass jewel
 

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Another good token. It’s for the J.T. Parrish department store, established in 1879 at 10 Oswald Terrace, Newcastle and then at 116 Shields Road from 1881 until it closed in 1984.

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The store was in a working class area and offered customers with a limited budget the opportunity to buy goods on credit. You took out a ticket from an agent in multiples of £1 and were charged interest at a shilling per pound on what was effectively ‘borrowed money’. The ticket was then exchangeable at the store for tokens in various denominations that could only be used to pay for goods at a named store. An agent might have several on his books and Parrish wasn’t the only one offering this deal).

As you probably know, for the sixpence, by 1921 we had moved our ‘silver’ coins from .925 fine to .500 fine.
 
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Another good token. It’s for the J.T. Parrish department store, established in 1879 at 10 Oswald Terrace, Newcastle and then at 116 Shields Road from 1881 until it closed in 1984.

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The store was in a working class area and offered customers with a limited budget the opportunity to buy goods on credit. You took out a ticket from an agent in multiples of £1 and were charged interest at a shilling per pound on what was effectively ‘borrowed money’. The ticket was then exchangeable at the store for tokens in various denominations that could only be used to pay for goods at a named store. An agent might have several on his books and Parrish wasn’t the only one offering this deal).

As you probably know, for the sixpence, by 1921 we had moved our ‘silver’ coins from .925 fine to .500 fine.
Really I'm really blown away with all the history that's on these tokens I've been finding it's so interesting 😊 would that be around victorian time?
 

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Your glass bead looks like it might be from a beaded curtain (a 1960's type thing) or a chandelier.
 

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Really I'm really blown away with all the history that's on these tokens I've been finding it's so interesting 😊 would that be around victorian time?

Yes, one of the reasons I love tokens too.

Yours looks to be a halfpenny like this one:

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Not easy to date these, but I would think late 1800s. They were however still running the scheme until at least the 1920s. There are a wide range of denominations and I've seen them up to ten shillings. There are some examples made from aluminium and also from compressed fibre (wartime period?) rather than metal.
 
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Yes, one of the reasons I love tokens too.

Yours looks to be a halfpenny like this one:

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Not easy to date these, but I would think late 1800s. They were however still running the scheme until at least the 1920s. There are a wide range of denominations and I've seen them up to ten shillings. There are some examples made from aluminium and also from compressed fibre (wartime period?) rather than metal.
Im hoping I find some more been so lucky with this new permission I've managed to get as I'm the first one to dig on it, it's so interesting
 
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Yes, one of the reasons I love tokens too.

Yours looks to be a halfpenny like this one:

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Not easy to date these, but I would think late 1800s. They were however still running the scheme until at least the 1920s. There are a wide range of denominations and I've seen them up to ten shillings. There are some examples made from aluminium and also from compressed fibre (wartime period?) rather than metal.
Wow that's great to know thank you for all that information really happy with that
 

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I'm a newbie to metal detecting so I'm really happy with what I've found so far thank you very much 😊

Well mate, you caught the attention of Red-Coat with your token find, that in itself is an achievement. :thumbsup:
Lots of detecting experience here to offer you help when you have questions, so don't hesitate to ask.

My mother-in-law lives in Stratford-Upon-Avon, I was last there in 1996, sure wish I'd brought my detector. :laughing7:
 

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Im hoping I find some more been so lucky with this new permission I've managed to get as I'm the first one to dig on it, it's so interesting
I agree Tokens are an interesting piece of social History. I work with a book writer on the 17th C Tokens I've been finding & have helped re-write their understanding of a few mistakes made by the rarer ones.
Very cool to pin a person, to a place & date & profession & help prove it via family research.

Congrats on a silver which is always a good day, we had none yesterday.
 
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I agree Tokens are an interesting piece of social History. I would with a book writer on the 17th C Tokens I've been finding & have helped re-write their understanding of a few mistakes made by the rarer ones.
Very cool to pin a person, to a place & date & profession & help prove it via family research.

Congrats on a silver which is always a good day, we had none yesterday.
Thanks Crusader it's appreciated 😁 aww never well that was the only silver coin I've found in a long time, you find some pretty cool stuff Id love to find what you find, I really would love to find a hammered coin as I've never seen one in person.
 

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Thanks Crusader it's appreciated 😁 aww never well that was the only silver coin I've found in a long time, you find some pretty cool stuff Id love to find what you find, I really would love to find a hammered coin as I've never seen one in person.
Hammered coins are pretty hard to target. We target Iron Age/Roman Sites using Google earth. Medieval cropmarks are mostly reduced to ploughed out Ridge & Furrow which might get you some coins but a market would be better. However, most Medieval Markets are under the town or city developments.
I'm not sure where you are on your permission journey but one thing you can try is any ploughed field in sight of a Medieval Church. The closer the better. If you GRID a large enough area it will happen. The sort of signs we look for in what we call Hammered Country is;
Spec Buckles(mostly Tudor) & Medieval Buckles
Jettons
17th C Tokens
Older Lead Tokens
Tudor Clothes Fasteners
Medieval Pot Shards
& like most good areas, dark soil, nails & Lead pieces (including pot mends)
 
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Well mate, you caught the attention of Red-Coat with your token find, that in itself is an achievement. :thumbsup:
Lots of detecting experience here to offer you help when you have questions, so don't hesitate to ask.

My mother-in-law lives in Stratford-Upon-Avon, I was last there in 1996, sure wish I'd brought my detector. :laughing7:
I know I feel very privileged to someone commenting with such knowledge, thanks mate its appreciated 😊 next time your up definitely bring your detector 😊
 

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