๐Ÿ”Ž UNIDENTIFIED Any one know about this relic that I recovered here in Illinois, its made of brass and about 3" long

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Apologies for the delay. Here are more photos of all sides of the less crusty example I have. The brass loop on this one was only fragmentary, found with it in the same hole, so I suspected it went to it, but that was confirmed when I dug the whole piece with the brass loop (which appears to have been stretched). I feel certain that the loop was bent due to weight on the item itself.
 
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Itโ€™s a zoomorphic hook often identified as a sword hanger. Probably dates early 1800s, c. 1810-30s judging from the sites Iโ€™ve dug my two in, and the form of it is a serpent when viewed from the side
Here's some better pictures of the one I recovered in Illinois from a old home site.
 

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I think its missing it's safety band that snapped off & covered the hook area to stop the item you clipped (hung) off it coming lose.
I would think it's a late 18th-early 19th C Sword Belt Hanger. (or similar)
 
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I think its missing it's safety band that snapped off & covered the hook area to stop the item you clipped (hung) off it coming lose.
I would think it's a late 18th-early 19th C Sword Belt Hanger. (or similar)
I tend to agree. These exhibit more wear in the top of the hole, and of course thereโ€™s the stretching of the brass loop in the example I dug, which would seem to indicate weight was hung or suspended from these items. Would the brass loop have gone around a belt?
 
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Would the brass loop have gone around a belt?
Well thats the bit that bothers me. Normally the earlier ones I'm more familiar with had holes to rivet them to the leather.
There are 2 ways these can work - Normally more than 1 hook - The loop goes on the scabbard & the hook hooks on to a belt loop or the other way around.
Just not seen that type of loop attachment before.
 
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Well thats the bit that bothers me. Normally the earlier ones I'm more familiar with had holes to rivet them to the leather.
There are 2 ways these can work - Normally more than 1 hook - The loop goes on the scabbard & the hook hooks on to a belt loop or the other way around.
Just not seen that type of loop attachment before.
Thatโ€™s the bit that bothered me too. Was exactly why I asked
 
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