Artifacts or not?

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Spotted a small box next to cash register & asked shop own if it was for sale. Yes he said, that box has been there for three weeks & no one gas asked about it. Sold it to me for $3.

Think I did ok.
 

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Artefacts?... absolutely, and I would say you did exceptionally well. They all look good for Native American usage to me.

The ball could be a game ball but, if that’s a mortar it’s sitting on and the two belong together, there was a class of artefact known as a “ball pestle” used for a combination of pounding and grindling. The stone beads/pendants look absolutely right, and the small mortar bowl. So too does the awl and the bone fish-hook. The bone(?) bicone bead is is really nice.

The D-shaped item appears to be the end part of a turtle plastron which has been holed… possibly for use as a gorget or other personal ornament.

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The reed stem tobacco pipe looks to be a similar type to the “Indian effigy” pipes produced at Point Pleasant, Ohio (although they weren't the only maker) and commonly used in trade or sold at trading posts and general stores. I would put it around 1850-1860-ish. Like this one (sorry for the poor picture):

Effigy Pipe.jpg
 
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The pipe is good. What raises questions on the stone artifacts is that any worked area should match the existing stone.
The patina should match. The little hafted axe is a great shape but again the hafting area patina does not match the artifact.Bone looks old. Not sure about the disc items. The holes should match the exterior of the stone due to time.
There are more knowledgeable than me in the N.A artifact section if you wish me to move it there for better exposure.
The truth is nice to know...
 
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The pipe is good. What raises questions on the stone artifacts is that any worked area should match the existing stone.
The patina should match. The little hafted axe is a great shape but again the hafting area patina does not match the artifact.Bone looks old. Not sure about the disc items. The holes should match the exterior of the stone due to time.
There are more knowledgeable than me in the N.A artifact section if you wish me to move it there for better exposure.
The truth is nice to know...
Thank you,
Yes please add the the Artifact section.

Paul
 
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The pipe is good. What raises questions on the stone artifacts is that any worked area should match the existing stone.
The patina should match. The little hafted axe is a great shape but again the hafting area patina does not match the artifact.Bone looks old. Not sure about the disc items. The holes should match the exterior of the stone due to time.
There are more knowledgeable than me in the N.A artifact section if you wish me to move it there for better exposure.
The truth is nice to know...
After your comments, I was looking at the items you had referred to and realized what you see as patina not matching is oil transfer from hands over time. Over the years, I'm sure they've been handled more then once or twice. But I did come here for advice and would like to hear others thought on our theories.

Thanks, Paul
 

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After your comments, I was looking at the items you had referred to and realized what you see as patina not matching is oil transfer from hands over time. Over the years, I'm sure they've been handled more then once or twice. But I did come here for advice and would like to hear others thought on our theories.

Thanks, Paul
Sorry, I have to agree with TnMountains on the stone, I have artifacts I have handled for over 30 years, stone items are questionable.

The pipe is well worth the $3.00 even if the rest were not.
 

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