✅ SOLVED Copper Arrow Head ? Glorieta Pass Area NM

Lamy Lineman

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Was looking at some history of a Spanish Pueblo fight. Had pic's of old metal cross-bow arrow points found near Alberqueque NM. Also looked at TN's forums. Some pic's look similar to what I found. Could this be an old metal arrow point? I found it in the Glorieta Pass area NM. Scratched it to see the metal. Looks to be made of copper. The area is very rich in history. Santa Fe trail, Spanish & Pueblo Indian route, Civil War and now Amtrak & I-25 Interstate. Very crudely made, Has a green tint to it. Found a couple inches underground.
 

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Neat find Lineman. Based on the tiny bit of information I have read about these objects, I'd guess ones exactly like your's found in the New Mexico Territory were more likely "tinklers" (decoration) than points. If you look at other copper points from the South West it seems they were splayed out at the tip rather than coming to true cones (like Great Lakes copper culture points) Again, I'm just sharing the tiny bit I've just learned on these copper artifacts and hopefully an expert on both copper South West decoration and South West points can add something better.
 

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Could be an arrow point, but my swag would be that it's a cone decoration, a tinkler.
 

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Thought it must have been man made. Any guess as to the age?
 

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Jingle cones were European trade items. The rattle dates to the 1800's, and is made with three crotal brass bells and fifty-nine rolled-metal conical jingles. Rolled-metal cones like
these are often found on the dresses of women dancers. The Indians also made their own jingles, formed from the lids of cut chewing tobacco canisters. Rattles like this would be
employed during dance, or by a medicine man. The rattle is Sioux, and the dress Apache.
2A.jpg 2B.jpg Note the sheer number of cones on the dress. They were also used in decorating bags and pouches, and a lot of other things.
 

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Before trade with whites, and of course even after trade, they used deer toes for rattles and decorations. This is a deer toe rattle, and they were worn on clothing like jingles,
as well as arm and ankle bands by dancers.
View attachment 1065756
 

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After reading and seeing all the info., sure looks like a tinkler to me now. I'm still thrilled to have found it. Excellent article Tony, Thanks all...
 

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