Dutchman time and travel

[RGR375]

Does anyone have a good idea of when Waltz left the Phoenix area how long he was gone for before returning? I've heard 3 days , a week, etc. I'm also trying to confirm if he indeed owned a 9 acre Farm in Maryville which now sits where the Casino at Ft. McDowell now sits. On a side note I always wondered how if Waltz was caught in a flashflood and had to climb a tree to escape the raging flood how he was able to grab 49 pounds of Ore to take up the tree with him.

 

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[PotBelly Jim]

Does anyone have a good idea of when Waltz left the Phoenix area how long he was gone for before returning? I've heard 3 days , a week, etc. I'm also trying to confirm if he indeed owned a 9 acre Farm in Maryville which now sits where the Casino at Ft. McDowell now sits. On a side note I always wondered how if Waltz was caught in a flashflood and had to climb a tree to escape the raging flood how he was able to grab 49 pounds of Ore to take up the tree with him.

Welcome to the forums, glad to have someone from 3rd/75th!

I think Maryville was up near where the old Beeline Dragstrip was...kinda on the way to the casino going up 87, just on the north side of the Salt. You can still follow the old Ft McDowell Road on that side of the river, in places.

 

[Cubfan64]

I've never seen any documentation to prove that Waltz owned a farm in the Maryville area - if you come across that information I believe it would be new to the LDM community.

 

[RGR375]

Cub Fan, On the Superstition Mountain Museum webpage it states the following, I dont have any proof this is what Im inquiring about. It reads , Jacob Waltz moved to the Salt River Valley in 1868 and filed a homestead claim on 160 acres of land on the North Bank of the Salt River. It is from here that Waltz began his exploratory trips into the mountains surrounding the Salt River Valley. Im not saying this is true just curious as to if it is. I had read and Im trying to find it, that it was in Maryville and ended up being 9 acres. Source unknown at this time. Im just looking at a few things from a logistics, travel time and range perspective.

Thanks Potbelly Jim I'm glad to be here. B co 3/75. If you see me out there youll know pretty quick its me. Brother and I go out every weekend even now but were back by 11 am. Its still pretty warm by then.

 

[PotBelly Jim]

Cub Fan, On the Superstition Mountain Museum webpage it states the following, I dont have any proof this is what Im inquiring about. It reads , Jacob Waltz moved to the Salt River Valley in 1868 and filed a homestead claim on 160 acres of land on the North Bank of the Salt River. It is from here that Waltz began his exploratory trips into the mountains surrounding the Salt River Valley. Im not saying this is true just curious as to if it is. I had read and Im trying to find it, that it was in Maryville and ended up being 9 acres. Source unknown at this time. Im just looking at a few things from a logistics, travel time and range perspective.

Thanks Potbelly Jim I'm glad to be here. B co 3/75. If you see me out there youll know pretty quick its me. Brother and I go out every weekend even now but were back by 11 am. Its still pretty warm by then.

Sounds like Rangers are still leading the way

Waltz's homestead was down in south Phx, in the Cuatras Milpas Barrio. My grandmother lived in the same neighborhood but obviously a little later than Waltz.

Waltz squatted on school land in section 16, T1N R3E...bounded today from 16th - 12th streets going east to west, Buckeye Rd - Durango going north to south.

 

[somehiker]

Cub Fan, On the Superstition Mountain Museum webpage it states the following, I dont have any proof this is what Im inquiring about. It reads , Jacob Waltz moved to the Salt River Valley in 1868 and filed a homestead claim on 160 acres of land on the North Bank of the Salt River. It is from here that Waltz began his exploratory trips into the mountains surrounding the Salt River Valley. Im not saying this is true just curious as to if it is. I had read and Im trying to find it, that it was in Maryville and ended up being 9 acres. Source unknown at this time. Im just looking at a few things from a logistics, travel time and range perspective.

Thanks Potbelly Jim I'm glad to be here. B co 3/75. If you see me out there youll know pretty quick its me. Brother and I go out every weekend even now but were back by 11 am. Its still pretty warm by then.

Try here, where the topic is well represented.....

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/lost-dutchman-s-mine/418447-jacob-waltz-160-acre-1-4-section.html

IMO, based on the earliest and also what I consider the best resources......

As to how long he was absent from Phoenix and his farm, the variances are due to the accounts given by different sources that also apply to different times he was said to have gone out to the mountains. He had mentioned having multiple caches, and said he had recovered one of the smaller ones, the last of that one being what was in the candlebox under his bed at Julia Thomas' boarding house. He had been rescued from the flood by Rhiney Petrasch, a friend of both his and Julia's who he had sent after the flood subsided, to recover the box from the ruins of his house. The shortest interval, 3 days, probably relates to how long it may have taken JW to recover the cache, or an earlier cache he had made along one of the routes he used to get to his mine, rather than any he had made in order to actually work the mine.

 

[RGR375]

Thank you Somehiker. Been gone awhile but i'm glad to be back.