florida group trying to get permit to remove Doc Noss Gold

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sfloto

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Let me make it clear … I am divulging every trade secret I have to irritate my brother and his group. Ask me anything. This does not have anything to do with Diamagnetism it is all based on electrolysis and the laws of parallel resistance. What makes batteries work and steel rust and why boat owners put zinc tabs on their boats? Take a clean piece of magnesium and clean piece of gold attach multimeter leads to each piece, stick in ground you will read a DC voltage. Depending on which way you hooked up the leads +/- 2.0 volts. Now take a second (and at least 4 times larger) piece of gold and bury this target 10 feet away (not exact) tie a nonconductive string between the magnesium and target gold 10 feet away. With the multimeter still hooked between the Magnesium and the small piece of gold. Use the gold and probe an arc 18 inches keeping the same distance from the Magnesium. Notice the difference in voltage between being online and offline to the target. Please do not skip the step of tying the string between the Magnesium at to the target gold (stick something nonconductive behind the target and tie the string to it) we failed many tests because we assumed the line was in one place and our eye was wrong.
Your first question should be WHY would this work? Magnesium is a highly negative and gold is extremely positive. But what most people don’t realize is that there is a potential difference between two pieces of gold of different sizes. (You can test this with the multimeter) the voltage will be slight but this increases with the size difference.
Magnesium will be flowing to the target gold we will call that +100 units, with the small gold offline (not inline with target) the Magnesium will be flowing to small gold lets say +10 units and the small gold will be flowing to the target gold lets say -2 units for net of +8 units on Multimeter . Now with the small gold online Mg to LargeAu +100 Mg to smallAu +10 SmallAu to LargeAu -2 Net on Multimeter 180 units. Now before you expect to see 10 fold changes on a five dollar multimeter. The reason I used “units” was Voltage DC will not show these vast changes. You will see some but the amperage (watts) is where the payoff comes but that test requires more complicated equipment.

Now skeptical readers should be saying “big deal 10 feet” this is where the law of parallel resistance comes in to play. Parallel Resistance states that two items in the ground will be better connected the farther apart they are. I encourage you to Google this and do you own research. But until we figured this out we would keep moving closer to a target until it would disappear.

Now astute readers should be noticing a parallel between this and dowsing. Gold targets in the rods, some people able to dowse while others cant and being able to dowse far away but losing it up close. Why some people? The next most negative element to magnesium is calcium (interesting huh)

I have to get my stuff ready for my trip. But I will be honest if no one cares I probably won’t continue. When I had my site up there was a flurry of interest but now seams to be a lot of readers but few who really care.

Last point
1. What is the difference between a car battery and a deep cycle battery
2. When they say cold cranking amps when one is 400 and another is 550, how is the battery different.
The answer to those questions is how to tell if a target is big or small.
 

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Good morning B & B: Sorry that swr's degree in electrical / electronic enginering is a bit outdated and isn't adequate enough to understand your data, but there were many prominent Scientists, that even years after flight was accomplished and publically demonstrated, insisted that it was impossible and a pseudoscience.------but he means well. sigh.

However he does conveniently ignore the many Peer reviewed sources of similar basic data given by you.


side issue LUV, being a Geologist, you are interested in mining, What do you know of the MMI success rate?

Incidentally, I invite you to our fight forum on mining --> www.agorocom.com/ir/Noront/forums.

Sflot, I second Judy's request, post away

Don Jose de La Mancha
 

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Well I am back from the bountiful Caribbean. Well rested and happy. Is it me or has somebody been selectively deleting postings? One question in my email, that I realized I had not covered.
QUESTION: “If the cave ceiling had collapsed there would be more debris”
ANSWER: Somebody spent a great deal of time and labor to clear the collapse. The picture shows the massive tailing below the collapse. I would estimate the tailings to be 40 ft across and 100 ft down the mountain and 20 to 30 ft thick. We found remnants of a manual (mule or horse) drag line. When I was searching for a picture of the Tailing I found this picture. The black Box in his hand is a sensor that sends out an alert if somebody walks or drives I front. He has 4 (paranoid)

Nobody going to guess on my battery question?

Cold cranking amps = Surface area of the battery plates
Deep Cycle = Amt of mass in battery

LLR equipment High Value and fast die off = natural gold (high surface area)
Lower value with stable value = Large mass vs. surface area
 

beamer24

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sfloto,

OK. So do you feel your brother and his group's efforts are still valid? If so, why would you not partner up with them to be a part of it all? If they excavate, don't you want to reap the benefits?
 

purchase

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We have one of the original bars that came out of this site in the 1970's. We have been authorized to hold drawing, raffle, sell tickets for the bar. It is a 32lb dore' bar. We want to have the drawing of the winning ticket by the end of May, 2009. We have sold 17 tickets so far and when we have reached the 100,000th ticket we will award the bar to the lucky winner. The tickets can be purchased at tesoro-del-alma-store.com

For those that do not know my site is on the west side of the Caballos. Known as Tesoro Del Alma. Everyone from the looks of it is trying to to the West side where my claim is. Goto http://www.tesoro-del-alma.com then go to the tesoro-del-alma-store.com and purchase a ticket to a bar that actually came out in the 1970's it is a 32lb bar that is 60% gold. Has a value close to $200,000.

Nick
 

Shiloh1

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JudyH, Thanks for the explanation of a para and dia. This does make sence to me and explains some things that have been puzzling me for some time.
 

cptbild

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Doc Noss FOUND, took & sold, gold bars from "2" Separate & Different Caches !
In 2 different cavern/mine locations, miles apart !
This information comes from a Noss family member (My Partner)
AND!
I have personally seen, this Information/PROOF! :thumbsup:
 

cptbil

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As LARGE as these 2 caches are.... :o
Doc was actually looking for a MUCH LARGER cache when he found these "2" !

I believe that I may have accidently found the general location of this, when I was last in the
Caballo Mtns

There sure are enough treasure signs in this area, to indicate that something BIG!
Is nearby :thumbsup:
 

cptbild

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This is CPTBIL & BUGS
AND! ::)
I guess that I need to mention,
For many years,
One of Doc Noss's, Grandsons, was my PARTNER!
AND!
When, Not in the "field"
I was often a "GUEST" at his home
Being So!
Over the years, I have met & have been told By Mrs Ova Noss (who was actually in these caves/caches)
And! I have seenFIRST HAND!
And
I have lot of Factual Knowledge (maps/photos/assay/etc), of Doc Noss's
Finds and Activities
NOT! SECOND HAND! Info, or! ASSUMPTIONS !
SO!
I know the true facts/stories
 

lostcauses

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cptbild
You and every one else.
As for the a different individual with such claims: he is now in a interesting area were most do not go in the caballos. Who knows for sure.

When you going to look for the cave on top?
 

cptbild

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Hi! Lostcauses, :hello:
How's it going ?
As to the cave "on the top" ,
I will be up there, looking, as soon as I get two
VERY INTERESTING ,
sites on the bottom, (westside) taken care of
Care to go along ??
 

stude

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sflto: Just wondering why you say Victorio peak is 140 mi from T or C? You can drive from Las Cruces to VP or from T or C to VP in an hour or less. Google earth shows 39 mi as the crow flies. I am not agreeing or disagreeing with the rest of your claims, but this does make me wonder.
 

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sfloto

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sflto: Just wondering why you say Victorio peak is 140 mi from T or C? You can drive from Las Cruces to VP or from T or C to VP in an hour or less. Google earth shows 39 mi as the crow flies. I am not agreeing or disagreeing with the rest of your claims, but this does make me wonder.



Sorry I don't wander out here very much, In answer to your question the 140m was a round trip calculation google maps gave me using non highway travel. Google said 72 miles each way I guess I did not make it clear.
 

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sfloto,

The pics in all of this discussion are not present. Do you happen to have them or can you reload all the pics?

Thanks,

TC-NM
 

donethat

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Just a curiosity post. I don't see any of the "old guard" posting about Victorio Peak. Have to admit it's been forever since I was here too. I case I've been left in the dust, I was in one of the "officially recognized" groups during operation gold rush at "hell site" NM in 1977.(we represented the Apache Nation) Yep, I've still got the tee shirt and helped David Chandler with his book "100 tons of gold".
Anyway, just curious about any new news on Vicky Peak. Saw something about a Florida group doing something in the Caballos. (been there too)

donethat
 

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