FRANCIS DRAKE

elkman13

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FRANCIS DRAKE

Any one know anything about Drake and Whale Cove Or. Take a look on goggle for those who don't know the story. I know of a gold coin found on the Oregon beach but did not think it was in that area.
 

billwarren

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no but i know of a sunken English east indiaman named the Whale that sank off india in early 1600 with $33,000,000. Shallow water. I have two old maps showing the location It is not far from where America dumped bin ladens body in the sea.
 

bedrock bubba

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Me and buddy may be looking for Drakes treasure at Point Reyes, California. Anyone know anything about it?
Doing research now.
 

bigmike

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I believe that is a National Preserve around that area and no salvage would be allowed. There are a few books that include that wreck from Robert Marx. If memory serves he had found where that wreck lies but the state will not allow any salvage. Its been a while since I have read about it in his books so i may not be correct. I believe i am about the Preserve though.

Good luck,
Mike
 

Mackaydon

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Bigmike,
I was a partner with Marx in the Drake 'adventure'.
He did preliminary work but was denied salvage.
I have his 'x' marks the spot chart as to where he intended to work.
He later told me the State or the Feds (coincidentally?) did preliminary work in the same area and found nothing.
Don.....
 

lukdiver

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Bigmike,
I was a partner with Marx in the Drake 'adventure'.
He did preliminary work but was denied salvage.
I have his 'x' marks the spot chart as to where he intended to work.
He later told me the State or the Feds (coincidentally?) did preliminary work in the same area and found nothing.
Don.....

By that are you referring to Marx's search for the wreck of the Manilla Galleon 'San Agustin' 1595?
 

bigmike

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Thanks Mackaydon! I appreciate the correct info. I hate to post something that is false and was trying to go by memory when i last read some of his books. So am i correct that it is a preserve or sanctuary in that area? Sounds like its pretty much shut down for further investigation of that spot now huh?

Mike
 

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Thanks Mackaydon! I appreciate the correct info. I hate to post something that is false and was trying to go by memory when i last read some of his books. So am i correct that it is a preserve or sanctuary in that area? Sounds like its pretty much shut down for further investigation of that spot now huh?

Mike

Expedition not affected, did it wreck or beach, it's all in the translation?


Letter 1605,

The King: To Don Pedro de Acuña, knight of

the Order of St. John, my governor and captain

general of the Filipinas Islands, and president of my

royal Audiencia therein: You have already heard

that Don Luis de Velasco, former viceroy of Nueva

España - in view of the long navigation from the

port of Acapulco to those islands, and the great hard

ship and danger of navigation in that voyage because

of having no station wherein to repair the ships, and

to supply them with water, wood, masts, and other

requisite and necessary things – determined to ex-

plore and mark out the ports of the coasts from the

said Nueva España to those islands. He ordered

that this effort should be made by a vessel called

“The San Augustan” the said vessel was lost but the expedition was not affected.


This is a 19th century account, mentions the San Agustin, part of the reference is translated from a 1595 Spanish account of events.

"The fourth voyage of Californian annals was like

the third one from the far west. The piloto Sebastian

Rodriguez de Cermeňon in charge of the San Agustin

coming from the Philippines in 1595 , was ordered by

Governor Gomez Perez das Mariñas, in accordance

with royal instructions through Viceroy Velasco, to

make some explorations on the coast, doubtless with

a view to find a suitable station for the Manila ships.

Of Cermeñon's adventures we know only that his

vessel ran aground on a lee shore behind what was

later called Point Reyes, leaving on the land a large

quantity of wax and silk in boxes. It is possible that

the San Agustin was accompanied by another vessel

on which the officers and men escaped; but much more

probable I think that the expression ‘was lost in the

record is an error, and that the ship escaped with a

loss of her cargo. One of the men, Francisco Bolaños,

was piloto mayor, or sailing -master, under Vizcaino in

1603, when he anchored in the same port to see if

any trace of the cargo remained, but without landing.

The statement of Bolaños as reported incidentally in

the narrative of Vizcaino's voyage by Ascension and

Torquemada is, so far as I can learn, the only record

extant of this voyage”.
 

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Me and buddy may be looking for Drakes treasure at Point Reyes, California. Anyone know anything about it?
Doing research now.

In 1580, Drake purchased Buckland Abbey, a large manor house near Yelverton in Devon, his wealth is estimated today as $136 million, he brought most of what he captured home. I am not sure that Drake would leave treasure behind, most buried treasure stories about Drake come from a factual account of Drakes men intercepting a mule train of silver, in a planned ambush, there were two mule trains as one had earlier turned around due to the sitting of one of Drakes men in woods, he had his men dress in white so they would not shoot each other in the ambush, only this also made them easy to spot. Finding the treasure was to musch for them to carry they hide what they could not carry in under growth, only to find that the Spanish had returned and found it.

This has been rewritten into story books about Pirates and seems fantasy has found its way back to be seen as fact. The treasure of Drakes bay could be mixed in with the San Agustin, but as even Marx wrote it was not a treasure ship?
 

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