🔎 UNIDENTIFIED Help Identify ammo

tinner

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Hello everyone, I'm wondering if anyone can help Identifying this ammo. The first casing has no headstamp but appears to be a 45 cal. ???. the second casing has markings that say Rem-umc .30usa. The rest are led bullets except for the pointy one not sure if it is a bullet or not???

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UMC stands for Union metallic cartridge company, founded in 1867. They later merged with Remington arms in Bridgeport CT
 
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first one is 45 Colt looks like 1880's they weren't headstamp at first. REM-UMC headstamp n the 30 USA or 30 Army, commonly called 30-40 krag would put it after 1912 as they used only UMC before that date.
 
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Not any pellet I have ever used.
Way too big unless it's something made now in the higher cal.
.177/.22 cal are the two common
Hard to tell as there's no photo of the diameter measurement.
I would agree, not a pellet, way too big. I've attached another photo for reverence.
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first one is 45 Colt looks like 1880's they weren't headstamp at first. REM-UMC headstamp n the 30 USA or 30 Army, commonly called 30-40 krag would put it after 1912 as they used only UMC before that date.
Thanks, I kind of thought it was a .45 but no headstamp threw me off. So this round was introduced after the .30 06?
 
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Also, I'm really curious about picture #7. It has a sliver of led at the pointed end, Maybe from the casting??? Any ideas??? i've added a couple more pictures of it.
Thanks!!
 

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pistol-pete

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No Tinner the 30-40 Krag introduced 1892 and used until 1906 when we went to 30-06 cartridge
Commercial 30-40's are still made today.
45 Colt introduced 1873 still made today.
30-40 was known as 30 Army
30-06 is 30 Government
 
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Also, I'm really curious about picture #7. It has a sliver of led at the pointed end, Maybe from the casting??? Any ideas??? i've added a couple more pictures of it.
Thanks!!
It almost looks like someone grabbed it with a pair of pliers or something else to pull it from the casing.
 
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