Homespun woman and anchor plate?

[Btoots]

Hello, from today's finds in Fl.
Rookie mistake on the anchor plate... busted it up getting to it but it's copper and very thin with no broken nail holes so not sure if it was ever mounted and no idea what it is, and as for the brass or copper lady? no clue as to age or function. Thanks for the feedback

 

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[pencil5757]

The Anchor plate is a "Neck Stock Medallion" from the continental Navy from the Revolutionary War. That's where the Marines got the name "Leather-Necks" a neck stock is a leather chocker I sent you a PM.

 

[NOLA_Ken]

The lady is a suspender clip, there are some folks here who can tell you more about it than I can, I know I've seen the anchor piece before, but I'm drawing a blank trying to remember

 

[MuckyBottles]

Suspender clip all the way..or an overgrown garter clip..I dig hundreds of these things

 

[villagenut]

I know I have seen one of those anchor thingys before....here is one that I found, but sorry, no clue as to what it went to. Yes very thin and fragile.

 

[Btoots]

Thanks for the info everyone

 

[Mud Hut]

here you go..



(NOTE: see this great original thread here on the net : http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/334821-real-stumper-5.html)

 

[villagenut]

wow, never did I think it to be from that era. two birds with one stone. Both of these anchors from Florida too.

 

[cambria09]

Hello Btoots. Outstanding find!! That site needs more inspection. C9

 

[BosnMate]

Wow, that anchor plate is a great find.

 

[villagenut]

I am a little confused as I read over these old posts concerning one found by cdsieg. We're these actually associated with CW naval regiments, Rev War, or more modern usage? My curiosity is based on the one I found as well as the OPs example. I had never bothered researching mine because I had thought it to be more modern. But yes, the Navy was here in Florida during the CW, part of the Blockading Squadron that ran up and down the coasts and they did come ashore on more than one occasion. So I guess, I am still not sure on this ID, basically because of skeptics in the linked post.The one that the OP found as well as mine are sheet brass and not pewter. Was that a red flag in the info provided? my inquiry is purely out of wanting to know the accuracy of the ID. For myself it is historically important to my own record and notes. Thanks vn

 

[Mud Hut]

I am a little confused as I read over these old posts concerning one found by cdsieg. We're these actually associated with CW naval regiments, Rev War, or more modern usage? My curiosity is based on the one I found as well as the OPs example. I had never bothered researching mine because I had thought it to be more modern. But yes, the Navy was here in Florida during the CW, part of the Blockading Squadron that ran up and down the coasts and they did come ashore on more than one occasion. So I guess, I am still not sure on this ID, basically because of skeptics in the linked post.The one that the OP found as well as mine are sheet brass and not pewter. Was that a red flag in the info provided? my inquiry is purely out of wanting to know the accuracy of the ID. For myself it is historically important to my own record and notes. Thanks vn

Write to the publishers of the North South Trader ..reference the issue mentioned above .. and see if they can elaborate any more on their identification.

 

[vhs07]

Great find, especially for being so fragile. A question though, if they used pewter disks
in the revolutionary war, anyone know when they changed to the copper or brass ones?

 

[pencil5757]

Great find, especially for being so fragile. A question though, if they used pewter disks
in the revolutionary war, anyone know when they changed to the copper or brass ones?

I don't know about the pewter ones on sashes! Everyone I know of we're copper and were on leather maybe for officers, but they were Rev. War and that's how the Marines got the name leather-necks

 

[vhs07]

I don't know about the pewter ones on sashes! Everyone I know of we're copper and were on leather maybe for officers, but they were Rev. War and that's how the Marines got the name leather-necks

I'm just going off the article posted above by Mud Hut that states they were pewter in the Revolutionary War

 

[villagenut]

i had contacted the publisher of the article referenced by Mudhut, and I was told that they have seen these in both pewter and brass and that maybe.....this was to differentiate rank... but that was not a certainty.Was told they would get back with me if they could verify, but you know how that goes. Odd to find these in Florida, one would think.

 

[trikikiwi]

here you go..



(NOTE: see this great original thread here on the net : http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/what/334821-real-stumper-5.html)

This says the stock/belt/sash measures 31 something - I presume 31 inches. If that is the case, either they had very thick necks back in the early 1800's or they wrapped this twice before securing. A more contemporary ladies sash would make much more sense.