jamus peek
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Jamus, can you take some additional photos of what could be considered the working face if that stone last pictured was used as a hammer stone? (Post #32) I’m not a knapper so I don’t know if soap stone would make a suitable hammer stone when knapping. But there should be some evidence of wear if it was used for a long period of time.
Charl, I clearly see the difference.
Another possibility for that last rock Jamus posted (#32).
Locally (in California)....Steatite (soapstone) was used in ceremonial rituals involving the weather (rain rocks).
Cupules were pounded and the resulting Steatite powder was used as medicine to make it rain (trigger salmon runs). In California, tribes living near creeks and rivers heavily relied on salmon runs to survive.
Linear gouges were used to generate powder that would be used to make it snow...a perpendicular line would make it stop snowing.
I can only imagine that striking a sharpened flint across the stone would generate a small amount of Steatite powder, maybe to be used as medicine? Mystery for sure.
Could the dotted line be some kind of fossil? I know here in Ohio we occasionally find fossils sorta like that but I don't know. Good luck getting an ID. Interesting rocks if nothing else.
p.s. I don't know anything about artifacts so I am not saying it isn't one, I am just saying that it could be a fossil
I have studied invertebrate fossils im far from an expert but I have never seen invertebrate fossils through any time frame that resemble these cupule's.
Also the example Charl posted on the side with the prominent slashes one of the incisions is a line completely made up of dots. It's very obvious. Also on the link that Charl posted may have some examples of dotted line incisions.
I'll post some charts of Incised stones that are compromised of dots that form lines.
I think you have some nice pieces. As for others who can't make sense of them. You just need to investigate. The answers are out there. The stones are used for a purpose. They give the user information to a location. Most of these stones will have certain shape. They will coordinate with other stones in the area of interest. They knew to look for a similar shaped stone. Most of the stones start out larger. The smaller ones would have the best information on them. The color is another part of it.
They would only be good those who knew what to look for. If you want information to last put it in stone. It's really that simple. The people who made them were very educated in the art of concealment. You can read about some of this in the signs and symbol threads. They are used in vault treasure hunting. This is not a Spanish system. They only used it. If you know what to look for you can find this all over the world.
Are you saying there could be a cache of pinion nuts or acorn meal buried nearby?
I can't read the signs, so just throwing a guess out there.
I have seen some nice treasures Bob has found and I was impressed and they were not nuts.
No doubt.
I'm just trying to figure out the most valuable possession the native Americans in California had..it was food stores as far as I know. Maybe a leather satchel of pileated woodpecker scalps? IDK.
Maybe someone can shed some additional light on what treasure vaults the California tribes were known to hide and what was in them.
I read that Indians mined gems but no talk of gold. I find that interesting.
I got one for ya. I was thinking long and hard last night about the cupule's on the stones the best natural phenomenon that I could think of that made those dots on the rocks was a mentally challenged woodpecker trying to get a grub out of a rock.
Could be trapped gas bubbles. A geologist would likely be able to answer your question.