Is this 17g gold ring Freemasons or something else?

TheLittleMan

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So I haven't posted in a while, but this one rang up on my Equinox 600, and I was pretty stoked. 18k gold ring, 17g.

I need some info on this, because I'm getting mixed reviews. Some say the motto "In Hoc Signo Vinces" makes it definitely Templar Masons, others say the scimitar makes it Shriners, still others look at the Maltese cross and say fireman! I'm sticking with Masons till I hear otherwise (there's a carving of a trowel on one side), but I need the thoughts of experts. If you need more pics, I'm sure I can do that.

I was hesitant to post this, because there is a name and location carved inside, and I'd like to help the homeowner get it back to its rightful place. This location in Minnesota goes back to the late 1800s.
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So I haven't posted in a while, but this one rang up on my Equinox 600, and I was pretty stoked. 18k gold ring, 17g.

I need some info on this, because I'm getting mixed reviews. Some say the motto "In Hoc Signo Vinces" makes it definitely Templar Masons, others say the scimitar makes it Shriners, still others look at the Maltese cross and say fireman! I'm sticking with Masons till I hear otherwise (there's a carving of a trowel on one side), but I need the thoughts of experts. If you need more pics, I'm sure I can do that.

I was hesitant to post this, because there is a name and location carved inside, and I'd like to help the homeowner get it back to its rightful place. This location in Minnesota goes back to the late 1800s.
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AWESOME find my friend. It’s a winner! Congratulations!
 
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UPDATE: Through Ancestry.com, I found a gentleman with the name inside the ring (1854-1924) who moved to a town nearby in 1870 and whose father died in the town where I found the ring in 1899. He promptly moved to Oregon in 1900, while siblings remained in the area. I'm thinking this is a late 1800s ring, early 1900s at the latest.

My apologies if there's a better way to share this update. I'm always willing to learn. Thanks @GoDeep @Digger RJ @Aureus @lenmac65 for the banner votes :-)
 

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UPDATE: Through Ancestry.com, I found a gentleman with the name inside the ring (1854-1924) who moved to a town nearby in 1870 and whose father died in the town where I found the ring in 1899. He promptly moved to Oregon in 1900, while siblings remained in the area. I'm thinking this is a late 1800s ring, early 1900s at the latest.

My apologies if there's a better way to share this update. I'm always willing to learn. Thanks @GoDeep @Digger RJ @Aureus @lenmac65 for the banner votes :-)
I've only been a member of "TreasureNet" for a few years & I'm not a Moderator or on any rules committees, but from where I sit, your update is exactly where it should be. You are updating the rest of us on your find with an important
"provenance" about your great find. Congrats on the find !! That ring is
GORGEOUS & very hefty looking to boot. It's great that you are tracking down its' possible original owner & please continue to keep us updated on your progress right here in this thread that you started to share your lovely find with us. I'm changing my vote to "Banner". Huge congrats on your find of that beautiful, historic gold ring. Thanks for sharing your adventure. CHEERS !! J.T.G.
 

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So I haven't posted in a while, but this one rang up on my Equinox 600, and I was pretty stoked. 18k gold ring, 17g.

I need some info on this, because I'm getting mixed reviews. Some say the motto "In Hoc Signo Vinces" makes it definitely Templar Masons, others say the scimitar makes it Shriners, still others look at the Maltese cross and say fireman! I'm sticking with Masons till I hear otherwise (there's a carving of a trowel on one side), but I need the thoughts of experts. If you need more pics, I'm sure I can do that.

I was hesitant to post this, because there is a name and location carved inside, and I'd like to help the homeowner get it back to its rightful place. This location in Minnesota goes back to the late 1800s.
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That's a keeper and you want to give it back!!! Congratulations
 
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Update: I've been able to build quite a biography of the man from two sources, but for the time being, I'll relate the following with regards to his standing in Freemasonry (according to the secretary of a lodge in SD; see images below):

1. The first icon "is either a plumb or it is trying to add the plumb to the 47th Problem of Euclid", significant to a Blue Lodge Mason
2. The second icon is a Keystone identifying him as member of the York Rite
3. The third icon (the headstamp) "identifies him as completing his Templar Degrees in the York Rite"
4-5. The fourth and fifth icons are one, symbolizing his membership in the Shrine.
6. Finally, the sixth icon is an obvious trowel and a clear Masonic symbol.

Thus, this fellow was a Blue Lodge Mason of the York Rite as well as a Shriner.

I gauge its provenance as follows: It was crafted in the 1880s and lost in about 1892. I'm still waiting on his full Masonic history, and once I get permission from the homeowner, I'll share more of his personal history as well.
 

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So I haven't posted in a while, but this one rang up on my Equinox 600, and I was pretty stoked. 18k gold ring, 17g.

I need some info on this, because I'm getting mixed reviews. Some say the motto "In Hoc Signo Vinces" makes it definitely Templar Masons, others say the scimitar makes it Shriners, still others look at the Maltese cross and say fireman! I'm sticking with Masons till I hear otherwise (there's a carving of a trowel on one side), but I need the thoughts of experts. If you need more pics, I'm sure I can do that.

I was hesitant to post this, because there is a name and location carved inside, and I'd like to help the homeowner get it back to its rightful place. This location in Minnesota goes back to the late 1800s.
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That's pretty cool... congratulations!
 

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Então eu não posto há algum tempo, mas este tocou no meu Equinox 600, e eu fiquei muito feliz. Anel de ouro 18k, 17g.

I need some info on this, because I'm getting mixed reviews. Some say the motto "In Hoc Signo Vinces" makes it definitely Templar Masons, others say the scimitar makes it Shriners, still others look at the Maltese cross and say fireman! I'm sticking with Masons till I hear otherwise (there's a carving of a trowel on one side), but I need the thoughts of experts. If you need more pics, I'm sure I can do that.

I was hesitant to post this, because there is a name and location carved inside, and I'd like to help the homeowner get it back to its rightful place. This location in Minnesota goes back to the late 1800s.
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So I haven't posted in a while, but this one rang up on my Equinox 600, and I was pretty stoked. 18k gold ring, 17g.

I need some info on this, because I'm getting mixed reviews. Some say the motto "In Hoc Signo Vinces" makes it definitely Templar Masons, others say the scimitar makes it Shriners, still others look at the Maltese cross and say fireman! I'm sticking with Masons till I hear otherwise (there's a carving of a trowel on one side), but I need the thoughts of experts. If you need more pics, I'm sure I can do that.

I was hesitant to post this, because there is a name and location carved inside, and I'd like to help the homeowner get it back to its rightful place. This location in Minnesota goes back to the late 1800s.
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From the insignia contained (H.T.W.S.S.T.K.S) it can already be proved as a Masonic item. The cross references the Knights of Saint John, who were captured and imprisoned on the Island of Malta. With the ring alone it is difficult to define its origin, so could you say where you found it? Or in which region?
 
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From the insignia contained (H.T.W.S.S.T.K.S) it can already be proved as a Masonic item. The cross references the Knights of Saint John, who were captured and imprisoned on the Island of Malta. With the ring alone it is difficult to define its origin, so could you say where you found it? Or in which region?
Thanks. In post #32 I mention the full scope of the ring insignia. I already know it's location and much of where/when the owner was during his lifetime. I hope to share more once I get permission to do so.
 

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Thanks. In post #32 I mention the full scope of the ring insignia. I already know it's location and much of where/when the owner was during his lifetime. I hope to share more once I get permission to do so.
I will be waiting for updates. Any questions regarding Freemasonry can consult me. I'll be glad to help.
 

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Congrats again. This thread gets more and more interesting as you add additional detail and context. I hope this beautiful old gold gets the attention it clearly deserves. Good luck.
 

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So I haven't posted in a while, but this one rang up on my Equinox 600, and I was pretty stoked. 18k gold ring, 17g.

I need some info on this, because I'm getting mixed reviews. Some say the motto "In Hoc Signo Vinces" makes it definitely Templar Masons, others say the scimitar makes it Shriners, still others look at the Maltese cross and say fireman! I'm sticking with Masons till I hear otherwise (there's a carving of a trowel on one side), but I need the thoughts of experts. If you need more pics, I'm sure I can do that.

I was hesitant to post this, because there is a name and location carved inside, and I'd like to help the homeowner get it back to its rightful place. This location in Minnesota goes back to the late 1800s.
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wow, stunning ring. best of luck returning it to the owner. great save and well done
 

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WOW what a save!! That is one gorgeous ring:icon_thumleft: Absolutely one of the prettiest I have seen on T-Net. Banner vote is in!!
 

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Update: I've been able to build quite a biography of the man from two sources, but for the time being, I'll relate the following with regards to his standing in Freemasonry (according to the secretary of a lodge in SD; see images below):

1. The first icon "is either a plumb or it is trying to add the plumb to the 47th Problem of Euclid", significant to a Blue Lodge Mason
2. The second icon is a Keystone identifying him as member of the York Rite
3. The third icon (the headstamp) "identifies him as completing his Templar Degrees in the York Rite"
4-5. The fourth and fifth icons are one, symbolizing his membership in the Shrine.
6. Finally, the sixth icon is an obvious trowel and a clear Masonic symbol.

Thus, this fellow was a Blue Lodge Mason of the York Rite as well as a Shriner.

I gauge its provenance as follows: It was crafted in the 1880s and lost in about 1892. I'm still waiting on his full Masonic history, and once I get permission from the homeowner, I'll share more of his personal history as well.
Sounds like you've already been in contact with the right folks to find out more about him. I was going to suggest reaching out to local lodges and asking them about member records. That is one awesome ring. I'm hunting a local lodge in MO (same location since ~1910) and the only thing Masonic thing I've found is an aluminum token from the 1990s! :) (100 year challenge coin for one of the appendant bodies).

Blue Lodge: Main Masonic organization, must be a member to join all other Masonic groups.
Appendant Bodies: Shrine, York Rite, Knights Templar, etc.

Looking forward to finding out more about what you've discovered on this ring and the owner!
 
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