✅ SOLVED J.C. Childs & Co metal clock? Mirror?

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I found this really cool piece yesterday in an old farm dump. I am not sure what it is made of, it looks like copper or bronze but it is rusted. Mabel some sort of alloy? On the top, it reads “Green Label Beef Iron & Wine” and lower down it says “J.C. Child’s & Co New York” Green label Beef Iron & Wone was a tonic created by J.C. Child’s and Co and sold in his liquor store in New York City. He seems to have been in business from 1885 to around 1920. I can’t find anything like this piece online so any help is appreciated. Also, if you think there’s a safe way to get the rust off, I would love to know. The deign is Beautiful and I would love to uncover more of it.
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I didn't find an exact match, but if you search "Columbus brass ship clock" you will see similar examples. I'm guessing it's from 1892 commemorating 400 years since Columbus discovered America (or at least got credit for it...). That time frame also fits with the J. C. Childs company.
 

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I didn't find an exact match, but if you search "Columbus brass ship clock" you will see similar examples. I'm guessing it's from 1892 commemorating 400 years since Columbus discovered America (or at least got credit for it...). That time frame also fits with the J. C. Childs company.
I think you got it! J.C. Child’s was probably using it as advertising for his store. Thanks! Any ideas of how to clean it up?
 

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That rust looks pretty deep. You could use Evaporust, vinegar, or electrolysis on it, but, that will most likely remove some detail too.
 

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That rust looks pretty deep. You could use Evaporust, vinegar, or electrolysis on it, but, that will most likely remove some detail too.
Thanks. I think I might just leave it. I have look a little closer and I think it’s a copper or brass coating or cover on cast iron so I don’t want to destroy the coating.
 

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Evaporust won't hurt copper or brass, but, I imagine if you removed some of the rust underneath the coating, the coating might become a bit loose, and maybe flake off. Maybe try it in a small inconspicuous spot first before dunking the whole thing.
 

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Evaporust won't hurt copper or brass, but, I imagine if you removed some of the rust underneath the coating, the coating might become a bit loose, and maybe flake off. Maybe try it in a small inconspicuous spot first before dunking the whole thing.
Alright. Will try that.
 

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