Juskevicius
Jr. Member
According franklin recommendation, I have created a new thread. I put in this message my 5 meesages from other thread.
Please raise your hand, who still think that someone counted 746 letters/words (2906-2160=746) in order to encode ONE letter?
Did you try it yourself?
friendship and countenance of the first men of the country
This is semi true story about semi real person. Text is full of hints, but there are two main ones. One of them I will tell next week.
It is an American history story.
The second most important hint is text about Morriss house.
he leased for a term of years the Washington Hotel, known now as the Arlington.
The point is, big portion of text is about Robert Morris (1734 – 1806). He becoming known as the "Financier of the Revolution".
What we know about Morris from Wikipedia?
In 1790, President George Washington accepted Morris's offer to make the house his primary residence; Morris and his family subsequently moved to a smaller, neighboring property. By the 1790s, Morris had become close friends with Washington, and he and his wife were regular fixtures at state events thrown by the president. The President's House, as it became known, served as the residence of the president until 1800, when President John Adams moved to the White House in Washington D.C.
Well. Let's change two words from cited sentence.
he leased for a term of years to Washington family, known now as the Arlington.
So we see that terms 'Morris house' and 'Arlington' are in tight connection. In fact Custis/Washington family bought property in Arlington in 1778.
Interesting picture is here. All 3 persons are mentioned in the text. Am I right, Franklin? :-)
en.wikipedia.org
There is number of others, not so important hints.
1. Morriss/Morris wife. See text about 'Miss Sarah Mitchel' and about MARY WHITE MORRIS (1749 - 1827); https://www.librarycompany.org/women/republicancourt/morris_mary.htm .
2. Morriss/Morris place of birth. Maryland/England. Maryland - land of Henrietta Maria, the French-born queen of England.
3. Transferring of Morriss/Morris. Morriss was born in the State of Maryland, but removed at an early age. Morris left England to join his father in Maryland in 1747 (age of 13).
4. Chief Justice of the United States John Marshall (1755 – 1835) has visited Morriss/Morris house for sure.
Peter Viemeister is right. The author of this pamphlet is Ferdinand Charles Hutter (1831 – 1885), former CSA member. Part of text is about himself, like 'purchaser and shipper of tobacco in Lynchburg'
or connection to former CSA member, Lynchburg Mason leader Max Guggenheimer; https://www.newspapers.com/clip/28430768/max-guggenheimer/
Another part of text is about real person - Robert Morriss. I don't bother you with Robert Morriss facts. It is useless. In addition, every sentence about Beale is a bullshit, but treasure is not a bullshit. In next message next week I gona talk about first most important hint, about words 'enumerated' and 'renumeration'.
franklin said:
>Sorry wrong Robert Morriss. I went down that road years ago until I found the right Robert Morriss and Sarah Mitchell and their genealogy.
Exactly. They had to choose good Robert Morrise or Robert Morriso or Robert Morriss or Robert Morri.
They succeeded. This Robert was good. Many people spend much time on this bullshit. They needed to save time, I don't know why.
I reveal it because I am angry at NARA people.
Well, here I start here my last message about most important hint in Beale papers. There are who quotes about numbers, having words 'enumerated' and 'renumeration'.
First quote.
Amongst his guests and devoted personal friends Jackson, Clay, Coles, Witcher, Chief Justice Marshall, and a host of others scarcely less distinguished, might be enumerated.
The point here is that all 5 (or more) persons mentioned, died after Robert Morris (January 20, 1734 – May 8, 1806). All of them are here:
US President Andrew Jackson (March 15, 1767 – June 8, 1845)
.
Henry Clay
(1777–1852)
9th United States Secretary of State
.
Isaac Coles (1747-1813)
Member of the U.S. House of Representatives
from Virginia's 6th district
In office March 4, 1793 – March 3, 1797
.
Vincent Addison Witcher (1837 – 1912)
was a Confederate States Army Lieutenant Colonel during the American Civil War. Disbanded in Lynchburg.
or
John Seashoal Witcher (July 15, 1839 – July 8, 1906)
Member of the U.S. House of Representatives
from West Virginia's 3rd district
In office March 4, 1869 – March 3, 1871
.
John Marshall (September 24, 1755 – July 6, 1835) was an American politician and lawyer who served as the fourth chief justice.
So these persons were kind of guests to Robert Morris in a cemetery. 'Might be enumerated' - yes, of course, they might be enumerated, especially if they were a solders. All gravestones in military cemeteries were enumerated. Please do not forget that Morriss/Morris house and Arlington are related.
Second quote. Word 'renumeration' written like it on purpose. It is not a mistake.
to remain in his house for more than twenty years, and until he died, without ever receiving the slightest renumeration
The question. After his death renumeration happened ...? Few words about quote 'more than twenty years'. We know that Arlington cemeteries established in 1864. Here I add one fact revealed by my own research. In year 1885 numbering of graves in Arlington cemetery oldest section started to change, it is present section 13. Initially numbers were sporadic, after a reform numbers become linear, as it is now.
In case we wanted to know old arrange of numbers, we have two options. Either find all old photos of Arlington cemetery done before 1885 or go to NARA and do a request.
Here I publish one photo from year 1877.
Number 2906 - letter H.
https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47e1-ba22-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99 photo by Kilburn Brothers. No. 323. Soldiers' Cemetery. Arlington.
Present location is.
ancexplorer.army.mil
Here is second option details.
Register of Burial Lots at Arlington National Cemetery, 1894 ?; With Reference to Correspondence in Series 89 Relating to the Burials. This series registers individuals buried in lots 1 - 1,263 of the Arlington National Cemetery.
NAID: 614779
HMS/MLR: NM81 623; RG92E623
Creator: War Department. Office of the Quartermaster General. Cemeterial Branch. (8/19/1867 - 1895)
Types of Media:
Bound Volume
Extent:
3 linear inches
Count:
1 Volume, Oversize
Access: Unrestricted
Use: Unrestricted :-)
I post here a photo of this books cover.
This volume contains old grave numbers and deceased people names.
The interesting facts about captain Ferdinand Charles Hutter (1831 – 1885). Between 1861 and 1865 he was Quartermaster assistant in CS Army. His father Major George Christian Hutter served in US army as Quartermaster (in Fort Gadsden, Florida) and Major Paymaster in the U.S. Military until 1861. Ferdinand married Mary Power Lyons in Richmond in 1864. She was the daughter of the Honorable James Lyons leader of the Richmond Bar, and member of the Confederate Congress. The Quartermaster General’s Office (QMG) is responsible also for graves numbering.
Good luck!
Please raise your hand, who still think that someone counted 746 letters/words (2906-2160=746) in order to encode ONE letter?
Did you try it yourself?
friendship and countenance of the first men of the country
This is semi true story about semi real person. Text is full of hints, but there are two main ones. One of them I will tell next week.
It is an American history story.
The second most important hint is text about Morriss house.
he leased for a term of years the Washington Hotel, known now as the Arlington.
The point is, big portion of text is about Robert Morris (1734 – 1806). He becoming known as the "Financier of the Revolution".
What we know about Morris from Wikipedia?
In 1790, President George Washington accepted Morris's offer to make the house his primary residence; Morris and his family subsequently moved to a smaller, neighboring property. By the 1790s, Morris had become close friends with Washington, and he and his wife were regular fixtures at state events thrown by the president. The President's House, as it became known, served as the residence of the president until 1800, when President John Adams moved to the White House in Washington D.C.
Well. Let's change two words from cited sentence.
he leased for a term of years to Washington family, known now as the Arlington.
So we see that terms 'Morris house' and 'Arlington' are in tight connection. In fact Custis/Washington family bought property in Arlington in 1778.
Interesting picture is here. All 3 persons are mentioned in the text. Am I right, Franklin? :-)
Robert Morris (financier) - Wikipedia
1. Morriss/Morris wife. See text about 'Miss Sarah Mitchel' and about MARY WHITE MORRIS (1749 - 1827); https://www.librarycompany.org/women/republicancourt/morris_mary.htm .
2. Morriss/Morris place of birth. Maryland/England. Maryland - land of Henrietta Maria, the French-born queen of England.
3. Transferring of Morriss/Morris. Morriss was born in the State of Maryland, but removed at an early age. Morris left England to join his father in Maryland in 1747 (age of 13).
4. Chief Justice of the United States John Marshall (1755 – 1835) has visited Morriss/Morris house for sure.
Peter Viemeister is right. The author of this pamphlet is Ferdinand Charles Hutter (1831 – 1885), former CSA member. Part of text is about himself, like 'purchaser and shipper of tobacco in Lynchburg'
or connection to former CSA member, Lynchburg Mason leader Max Guggenheimer; https://www.newspapers.com/clip/28430768/max-guggenheimer/
Another part of text is about real person - Robert Morriss. I don't bother you with Robert Morriss facts. It is useless. In addition, every sentence about Beale is a bullshit, but treasure is not a bullshit. In next message next week I gona talk about first most important hint, about words 'enumerated' and 'renumeration'.
franklin said:
>Sorry wrong Robert Morriss. I went down that road years ago until I found the right Robert Morriss and Sarah Mitchell and their genealogy.
Exactly. They had to choose good Robert Morrise or Robert Morriso or Robert Morriss or Robert Morri.
They succeeded. This Robert was good. Many people spend much time on this bullshit. They needed to save time, I don't know why.
I reveal it because I am angry at NARA people.
Well, here I start here my last message about most important hint in Beale papers. There are who quotes about numbers, having words 'enumerated' and 'renumeration'.
First quote.
Amongst his guests and devoted personal friends Jackson, Clay, Coles, Witcher, Chief Justice Marshall, and a host of others scarcely less distinguished, might be enumerated.
The point here is that all 5 (or more) persons mentioned, died after Robert Morris (January 20, 1734 – May 8, 1806). All of them are here:
US President Andrew Jackson (March 15, 1767 – June 8, 1845)
.
Henry Clay
(1777–1852)
9th United States Secretary of State
.
Isaac Coles (1747-1813)
Member of the U.S. House of Representatives
from Virginia's 6th district
In office March 4, 1793 – March 3, 1797
.
Vincent Addison Witcher (1837 – 1912)
was a Confederate States Army Lieutenant Colonel during the American Civil War. Disbanded in Lynchburg.
or
John Seashoal Witcher (July 15, 1839 – July 8, 1906)
Member of the U.S. House of Representatives
from West Virginia's 3rd district
In office March 4, 1869 – March 3, 1871
.
John Marshall (September 24, 1755 – July 6, 1835) was an American politician and lawyer who served as the fourth chief justice.
So these persons were kind of guests to Robert Morris in a cemetery. 'Might be enumerated' - yes, of course, they might be enumerated, especially if they were a solders. All gravestones in military cemeteries were enumerated. Please do not forget that Morriss/Morris house and Arlington are related.
Second quote. Word 'renumeration' written like it on purpose. It is not a mistake.
to remain in his house for more than twenty years, and until he died, without ever receiving the slightest renumeration
The question. After his death renumeration happened ...? Few words about quote 'more than twenty years'. We know that Arlington cemeteries established in 1864. Here I add one fact revealed by my own research. In year 1885 numbering of graves in Arlington cemetery oldest section started to change, it is present section 13. Initially numbers were sporadic, after a reform numbers become linear, as it is now.
In case we wanted to know old arrange of numbers, we have two options. Either find all old photos of Arlington cemetery done before 1885 or go to NARA and do a request.
Here I publish one photo from year 1877.
Number 2906 - letter H.
https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/510d47e1-ba22-a3d9-e040-e00a18064a99 photo by Kilburn Brothers. No. 323. Soldiers' Cemetery. Arlington.
Present location is.
Army Cemeteries Explorer
ancexplorer.army.mil
Here is second option details.
Register of Burial Lots at Arlington National Cemetery, 1894 ?; With Reference to Correspondence in Series 89 Relating to the Burials. This series registers individuals buried in lots 1 - 1,263 of the Arlington National Cemetery.
NAID: 614779
HMS/MLR: NM81 623; RG92E623
Creator: War Department. Office of the Quartermaster General. Cemeterial Branch. (8/19/1867 - 1895)
Types of Media:
Bound Volume
Extent:
3 linear inches
Count:
1 Volume, Oversize
Access: Unrestricted
Use: Unrestricted :-)
I post here a photo of this books cover.
This volume contains old grave numbers and deceased people names.
The interesting facts about captain Ferdinand Charles Hutter (1831 – 1885). Between 1861 and 1865 he was Quartermaster assistant in CS Army. His father Major George Christian Hutter served in US army as Quartermaster (in Fort Gadsden, Florida) and Major Paymaster in the U.S. Military until 1861. Ferdinand married Mary Power Lyons in Richmond in 1864. She was the daughter of the Honorable James Lyons leader of the Richmond Bar, and member of the Confederate Congress. The Quartermaster General’s Office (QMG) is responsible also for graves numbering.
Good luck!
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